Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[mary billyou]

Kristallnacht  by Chick Strand

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 6:50 AM Marcin Gizycki  wrote:

> Has anybody mentioned *Hurlements en faveur de Sade* by Guy Debord?
>
> Marcin Giżycki
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> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf Of
> *Daniel A. Swarthnas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:57 AM
> *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness
>
>
>
> Hi Albert!
>
>
>
> Some of the films I was thinking about, have already been mentioned by
> other people, but you have of course the very great "black" films by Stan
> Brakhage which Nicky Hamlyn writes about in "Stan Brakhage: Realm Buster"
> (John Libbey publishing, 2018).
>
>
>
> You can also try to check out this two films (it is almost black leaders
> during the whole films):
>
> *Gregory Markopoulos - Gammelion* (1968)
>
> João César Monteiro - *Branca de Neve (Snow White)*
>
>
>
> Btw, Anouk de Clercq's film *Black* is on 35mm, not 16mm.
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Daniel
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>
>
> Daniel A. Swarthnas
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 10:13 AM
> *From:* "Albert Alcoz" 
> *To:* "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness
>
> Hello John,
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The
> Black Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was
> looking for.
>
>
>
> That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at
> the Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de
> Vista in Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.
>
>
>
> I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the
> voices over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for
> a video essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s
>
>
>
> If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use
> it to explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Albert
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:13 AM John Smith 
> wrote:
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> My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
>
> http://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/the-black-tower/
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[Marcin Gizycki]

Has anybody mentioned Hurlements en faveur de Sade by Guy Debord?
Marcin Giżycki

From: FrameWorks  On Behalf Of Daniel 
A. Swarthnas
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:57 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

Hi Albert!

Some of the films I was thinking about, have already been mentioned by other 
people, but you have of course the very great "black" films by Stan Brakhage 
which Nicky Hamlyn writes about in "Stan Brakhage: Realm Buster" (John Libbey 
publishing, 2018).

You can also try to check out this two films (it is almost black leaders during 
the whole films):
Gregory Markopoulos - Gammelion (1968)
João César Monteiro - Branca de Neve (Snow White)

Btw, Anouk de Clercq's film Black is on 35mm, not 16mm.

Good luck

Daniel


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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 10:13 AM
From: "Albert Alcoz" mailto:albertal...@gmail.com>>
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>>
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness
Hello John,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The Black 
Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was looking 
for.

That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at the 
Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de Vista in 
Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.

I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the voices 
over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for a video 
essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s

If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use it to 
explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.

All the best,
Albert

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:13 AM John Smith 
mailto:i...@johnsmithfilms.com>> wrote:
My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
http://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/the-black-tower/
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[Daniel A. Swarthnas]

Hi Albert!

 

Some of the films I was thinking about, have already been mentioned by other people, but you have of course the very great "black" films by Stan Brakhage which Nicky Hamlyn writes about in "Stan Brakhage: Realm Buster" (John Libbey publishing, 2018).

 

You can also try to check out this two films (it is almost black leaders during the whole films):

Gregory Markopoulos - Gammelion (1968)

João César Monteiro - Branca de Neve (Snow White)

 

Btw, Anouk de Clercq's film Black is on 35mm, not 16mm.

 

Good luck

 

Daniel

 

 

Daniel A. Swarthnas

Filmmaker / Writer / Film programmer

Cinema Parenthèse / Turbidus Film / Filmform
swarth...@mail.com
+46(0)705778603

 
 

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 10:13 AM
From: "Albert Alcoz" 
To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness




Hello John,

 

Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The Black Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was looking for.

 

That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at the Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de Vista in Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.

 

I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the voices over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for a video essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s

 

If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use it to explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.

 

All the best,

Albert


 


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My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
http://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/the-black-tower/

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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello John,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The Black
Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was
looking for.

That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at
the Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de
Vista in Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.

I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the
voices over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for
a video essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s

If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use
it to explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.

All the best,
Albert

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> My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

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3 Women is a 1977 American avant-garde drama film written and directed by
Robert Altman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPlPg16gwJo

Best
Giuseppe

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> Nuit noire de Olivier Smolders, Belgique, 2005, 90 minutes.
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

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Nuit noire de Olivier Smolders, Belgique, 2005, 90 minutes.


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Envoyé : 22 novembre 2018 13:12:29
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Black by Anouk De Clercq, 5 minutes, 2015, Belgium, 16mm - brilliant film!


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Black by Anouk De Clercq, 5 minutes, 2015, Belgium, 16mm - brilliant film!


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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

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Derek Jarman’s “Blue."


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The End, Christopher Maclaine

Lots of ‘dark’ narration over black leader.
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The End, Christopher Maclaine

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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[blank]

Hi Albert,

I have a film that I made without removing the lens cover of the camera. Maybe 
you have already see it, it’s on my Vimeo account: https://vimeo.com/157752374 


I don’t know if you’re also interested in mainstream films, but the first one 
that comes to my mind is 30 Days of Night. There’s also a dystopian film called 
Perfect Sense in which people lose their senses and I think that at some point 
(I don’t remember the film very well) they lose their sight and the screen goes 
black.

Cheers,
Blanca

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> Para: Experimental Film Discussion List 
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> Hello frameworkers,
> 
> We are doing a research on films and videos related to a general theme: "a 
> certain darkness".
> 
> We have done a list with completely dark films like the one created by 
> Maurice Lemaitre named Song of Rio Jim (1978) but we also want to add some 
> other films (documentary, fiction, etc) where the obscurity works as a 
> metaphor or as an autoreflexive analysis.
> 
> Here are two known examples by Chris Marker and Woody Allen:
> 
> Sans Soleil (1983) Chris Marker 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGDu7YOlVuE 
>  
> “The first image he told me about was of three children on a road in Iceland, 
> in 1965. He said that for him it was the image of happiness and also that he 
> had tried several times to link it to other images, but it never worked. He 
> wrote me: one day I'll have to put it all alone at the beginning of a film 
> with a long piece of black leader; if they don't see happiness in the 
> picture, at least they'll see the black.” 
> 
>   
>  
> The Rose Purple of Cairo (1984) Woody Allen 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ovyrTzuYY 
>  
> “Don’t turn the projector off. No, no. It’s getting black and we 
> disappear.You don’t understant what is to disappear, to be nothing to be 
> annihilated. Don’t turn the projector off.” 
> 
> 
> Do you have some ideas behind this issue?
> 
> Some other suggestions or examples will be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you very much,
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