Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about that situation these days. I guess I was thinking of that story about Stan Brakhage who apparently did not at all like the film at 24fps, but when he saw it over again at silent speed {presumably 16fps (?) } it

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Fred Camper
Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net: ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about that situation these days. I guess I was thinking of that story about Stan Brakhage who apparently did not at all like the film at 24fps, but when he saw it over again at

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
huh, guess I missed that yesterday when I was hurrying out of the house. How and why do stories like that get started anyway? On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote: Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net: ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
Fred, Is that erroneous story actually in print somewhere? I think that may be how and why I even knew of it, and is this discrediting of the story also in print somewhere? Probably should be. Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote: Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net:

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Theise
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: How and why do stories like that get started anyway? That particular story got started because Jonas Mekas told it. It continues to be told because it's a good story, and it's lodged in the collective memory due to the

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely encounter that story? Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Theise wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: How and why do stories like that get started anyway? That particular story

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Hyman
Only you can answer that... On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely encounter that story? Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Theise wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Pierce, Greg
PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects Only you can answer that... On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Pierce, Greg
...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Adam Hyman Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:43 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects Only you can answer that... On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
Still not sure which book I saw the story, but I did find this, so the discrediting was in print: Pittsburg Post Gazette, Weekend Mag, Friday, February 6, 1998 Legend has it that Brakhage was watching Warhol’s “Sleep” (which consists of a sleeping person) and hated it. Someone in the room

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread John Matturri
Of Adam Hyman Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:43 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects Only you can answer that... On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, Myron Ortz...@sonic.net wrote: In which

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Steve Polta
jmatt...@earthlink.net wrote: From: John Matturri jmatt...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 11:24 AM

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-12 Thread Myron Ort
So 18fps plus sound. Not so much an homage to Warhol as an homage to Youtube! LOL. At least with Youtube you can turn off the sound. No sets of ear plugs can do that as completely, and sometimes the bass from the speakers hits you in the gut anyway and creates a whole other unwanted

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-12 Thread Damon
While this presentation of Sleep certainly differs from the original screenings of the film, it is also far from a Youtube hommage. Vexations played an important role in Warhol's conception of the film, and he took from Satie a working method making possible the editing of his short reels

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-12 Thread Myron Ort
what part of LOL do you not On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Damon wrote: While this presentation of Sleep certainly differs from the original screenings of the film, it is also far from a Youtube hommage. Vexations played an important role in Warhol's conception of the film, and

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-12 Thread David Tetzlaff
But if one is going to the trouble of presenting actual film, why not round up a couple of the correct projectors Easier said than done. If you're screening with dual projectors for reel changes, they ought to have the same brightness and CT lamps and the same focal length lenses, no? The