Thanks for the info, Steve. Interesting that it was made rather than found. To
be truly found, must it have previously been lost? (and this is a digression,
as I fully understand the request made in the original post.) My memory of
Ordinary Matter is that the soundtrack plays like a found soundtrack - they
obviously don't belong together in a conventional sense and there is tension in
the way the sound and image aggressively hold each other off, like two football
players in a stiff arm standoff, each demanding its own pace and space. There's
a lot of that in Frampton's films, come to think of it, one might even call it
Surface Tension.
I have swapped soundtracks for many years - more displaced than found.
Example is Home Safe Badminton, two complete 16mm educationals shown one
after the other, projector sound is off. First one is Home Safe Home (circa
1950) the second is Badminton Fundamentals (circa 1960). Running times are
the same, with the soundtracks recorded on tape you listen to all of BF as you
watch HSH, then vice versa. You learn a lot (do not leave that electrical cord
dangling, do a full backswing for a smash) and it is entertaining, too.
During the first half the soundtrack is definitely lost, it just does not
belong, then it is completely found (in the wrong place, doh!!) during the
second half. For some reason I have always thought that it is the soundtrack
that has moved, but of course it could just as easily be said that the image
has been moved, same difference.
I am tempted to say that appropriation isn't what it used to be.
Tom Whiteside
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Steve Polta
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Subject: [Frameworks] the Frampton film...
...to which Tom Whiteside refers is Ordinary Matter (Hapax Legomena V). The
soundtrack indeed consists of a booming male voice reciting a Chinese language
syllabary and is also double-system sound (i.e. sound on tape; film is
projected at 16/18fps btw). I believe that this soundtrack was recorded by
Frampton for this film and would likely not be considered found sound.
Steve Polta
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Tom Whiteside
tom.whites...@duke.edumailto:tom.whites...@duke.edu wrote:
Which Frampton film uses some kind of a Chinese lectionary for soundtrack?
Probably from the seventies. I believe it was double system, sound was on
reel-to-reel tape. That was a found soundtrack.
Tom
Durham Cinematheque
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Subject: [Frameworks] Found Soundtrack Films
Hi,
Institutional Quality by George Landow was created from a found soundtrack, in
this case a tape recorder about an instructional test.
Does anyone know other examples that uses found soundtracks for experimental
films, especially from the sixties and seventies?
Thanks,
Albert
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/
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