Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Alistair Stray
wow, speaking as a digital artist that is quite an uneducated and illinformed post I've read arguing the benefits of the digital medium over film.   "where exposure and depth of field can be entirely controlled in *POST* with no loss of quality." Thats just bollocks isn't it ? Or do you really be

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan Walley
Dear Aaron, et. al., Before the flamewar begins in earnest... You've been treated pretty roughly in the responses to your post so far. Normally I'd like to see a higher tone than "go fuck yourself" on Frameworks (I can get all the "go fuck yourself" attitude I want from U.S. politics). But

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread David Tetzlaff
What's important about the Forbes piece is not the precise details (Kodak Park may not be shuttered, but it was more or less a ghost town as of 5 or 6 years ago), but the fact that a major business publication is looking at Kodak's stock collapse as a sign of 'the end.' Forbes is not going to pr

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread rachelle
I found Aaron's post to be very succinct, and brought up some good points. And a hearty 'fuck yourself' a fine follow-up to get the rowdy discussion going. To me, Aaron's post highlighted the focus on debating image quality in the capture process of film and video, but seldom to I hear discussion

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Matt Helme
You have Fuji,for now? Matt http://www.youtube.com/user/oscarthepug1234 http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007 From: David Tetzlaff To: Experimental Film Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about

[Frameworks] attention CSIF

2011-10-04 Thread charles chadwick
Hey, could someone from CSIF (Calgary Society of Independent Filmmakers) email me? I have some questions. I tried to send an email to your programmer email address, but it bounced. Thanks! -charles -- Check my myspace page for my streaming films and info - www.myspace.com/chadwickfilms or facebo

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Gladstone
While Koda's financial struggles are interesting on many levels, and certainly having some affect on this group. Please G-d, No more Film Versus Video (Electronic Capture) because really: WHY DOES IT MATTER TO ANYONE ELSE IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO USE FILM OR OTHER MEDIA TO CREATE THEIR WORK? Pers

[Frameworks] Hand Processing B&W reversal

2011-10-04 Thread Maat Galindo
Frameworks, I am trying to find information on how to hand process 16mm b&w reversal film. I have come across directions on many sites, but I have not been able to find out what chemicals to use and where to buy them. Are there any kits similar to the Kodak TMAX Direct Positive Slide Kit that are

[Frameworks] B+W Handprocessing Reversal Bleach?

2011-10-04 Thread marcia connolly
Hello all I'm teaching Experimental Film at NSCAD and we are hand-processing in a communal darkroom and there is a concern about our bleach. Does anyone know what the least toxic recipe for a 3374 Hicon B+W reversal bleach is? One that does not use P. Dichromate or Permanganate? Has anyone tried

[Frameworks] Brakhage articles; program of "eperimental" films at Yale

2011-10-04 Thread Fred Camper
There is an online publication with a new issue that has many articles on Brakhage, including a new one of mine. They publish in many languages, and most of the Brakhage articles are in French. The main page is http://www.lafuriaumana.it/index.php/home ; the Brakhage articles can be found

Re: [Frameworks] Hand Processing B&W reversal

2011-10-04 Thread Jason Halprin
Mat, I have a number of links to B&W processing guides on my delicious page here: http://www.delicious.com/jihalprin Of special note, check out this page: http://www.city-net.com/~fodder/hand/bwrev.html -Jason Halprin From: Maat Galindo To: frameworks@jonas

Re: [Frameworks] B+W Handprocessing Reversal Bleach?

2011-10-04 Thread edwin m
i don't think there's an off-the-shelf solution without potassium dichromate or permanganate. foma kits use dichromate and ilford uses permanganate. out of those two, permanganate is considered the safer. it's also worth saying that potassium ferricyanide might not be any less toxic (its use

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Aaron F. Ross
Regarding the allegation that my last post was technically inaccurate-- Altering exposure in post with no loss in quality is possible High Dynamic Range imaging. This type of sensor captures the entire range of brightness values visible to the human eye-- much greater latitude than any conventi

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread JB Mabe
If film sticks around there will always be 10 year old recans and short ends on ebay (or whatever replaces ebay). If video is all I've got there will always be cheapo consumer products - vidsters, flip, whatever. So I'm set. (keep it cheap. just keep working). -JB Mabe

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Mike Maryniuk WFG
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Re: [Frameworks] B+W Handprocessing Reversal Bleach?

2011-10-04 Thread Ed Inman
The Ilford formula is published here: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdfThe permanganate bleach formula is suitable only if continuous agitation is possible. If you are using a rewind tank like the G3 you must use dichromate bleach.If reversing an old school emulsion like Efke c

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Mike Maryniuk WFG
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Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Francisco Torres
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Mike Maryniuk WFG < m...@winnipegfilmgroup.com> wrote: > I seen your vimeo page > > Pretty bad. > About that Vimeo page... But that been the problem with most of the Digital "artists" since the 80s. They talk the talk but they do not walk the walk. Like those gu

Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak

2011-10-04 Thread Aaron F. Ross
Any constructive criticism regarding my work is welcome. Ad hominem attacks are not. Please be civil. The URL you want to go to is http://dr-yo.com -- Regarding my personal knowledge of experimental film, I'm not a scholar, but I do know the essentials. I've seen works by Michael Snow et al. M

[Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question

2011-10-04 Thread Kevin Timmins
Hi frameworks I'm just looking at some footage I have got back from Blue Cine Tech saved as .avi at 18fps. The Frame Size is 768 x 576, usually SD (PAL) frame size is 720 x 576. I just wondered if there was any reason for this as I thought film was 4:3 just like SD video? Would that mean my sup

Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question

2011-10-04 Thread Joe Gill
square vs non-square pixel? On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Kevin Timmins wrote: > Hi frameworks > > I'm just looking at some footage I have got back from Blue Cine Tech saved as > .avi at 18fps. The Frame Size is 768 x 576, usually SD (PAL) frame size is > 720 x 576. I just wondered if there was

Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question

2011-10-04 Thread Kevin Timmins
Can you please elaborate on the significance of this? From: joeg...@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 17:47:06 -0700 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question square vs non-square pixel? On Oct 4, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Kevin Timmins wrote:Hi frameworks I

Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question

2011-10-04 Thread Bernard Roddy
A graphics software like Photoshop uses square pixels.  A video monitor plays the work using scan lines that illuminate rectangular pixels (4:3 aspect ratio). The lab sent you the version in square pixels.  It should look right on your computer.  To make it look right on a video monitor, you'

[Frameworks] Filmcraft in Michigan closing

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Toscano
http://reelchicago.com/article/filmcraft-s-closing-astro-midwest-s-sole-lab Pick up yer elements if you left 'em there!! Mark Toscano ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

[Frameworks] double-8 film?

2011-10-04 Thread Barcy, Lisa
Does anyone know where I can purchase some (and a core or two) in the U.S? Also, where can I get it processed? My filmmaking experience is pretty much limited to 16mm, but I've recently inherited some double-8 cameras that's I'd love to experiment with. Lisa

Re: [Frameworks] double-8 film?

2011-10-04 Thread Beebe,Roger W
John Schwind sells it: http://www.zerelda.com/internationalfilm/internationalfilm.html I've always had mine processed by Dwayne's (but haven't processed any since the sunsetting of Kodachrome): http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/ Good luck, Roger On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Barcy, Lisa wrote: Does

Re: [Frameworks] double-8 film?

2011-10-04 Thread william santen
Hello Yale Film and Video should have double 8 in stock- they also process/ yalefilmandvideo.com (I think) Bill Santen On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Barcy, Lisa wrote: > Does anyone know where I can purchase some (and a core or two) in the U.S? > Also, where can I get it processed? My filmm

Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Frame Size question

2011-10-04 Thread David Tetzlaff
> I thought film was 4:3 just like SD video... Wikipedia is your friend. The page below lists the gate sizes and both the aspect ratio of the recorded image AND the aspect ratio as projected for more film gauges than I ever knew existed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_formats The o