Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Jay Hudson
consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It gets very hot in India. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron wrote: > That's a hell of a spin. Do they have the money to keep Kodak in business? > I'd figure it would be more likely small theaters in India would be > sna

Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Alex McCarron
What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: > consumer grade projectors will be even less resistant to heat. It > gets very hot in India. > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Alex McCarron > wrote: > > That's a hell

Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Jay Hudson
now you're being facetious. The only way to do it is through air conditioning. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Alex McCarron wrote: > What if you put them in a minifridge and cut a little hole in the door? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Jay Hudson wrote: >> >> consumer grade projectors w

Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Alex McCarron
I would really like you to be right and for there still be a reason for distributors to release new films as prints just to cater to poor, hot countries like India and that it would somehow be more affordable for theaters in those countries to deal with the current distribution system rather than w

[Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Freya
I'm quite skeptical about all these reports about the death of film we are suddenly seeing. They seem to  frequently turn out to have little substance to them on further examination. Aside from which, that last article seems to be more about the death of cinema and the rise of video projection,

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread 40 Frames
DCI requires that exhibitors moving to the DCI platform *must* remove 35mm projection capabilities from their booth, that is in order to be in compliance. It's commercial interests working to advance in short time to the new platform. Makes me think of what happened in the US with public rail tran

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Bill Basquin
I have never heard of  the "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence Service". It sounds like a blogger who is practiced at stating opinions with authority and with a name that is meant to sound like an institution.  Has anyone ever heard of  "IHS Screen Digest Cinema Intelligence Service" before or o

Re: [Frameworks] 50' daylight spool

2011-11-16 Thread Myron Ort
Did someone already suggest using those plentiful vintage metal or plastic 50 foot (showing) reels with square shaft hole and "gluing" something thin and opaque and cut to fit on the sides. Myron Ort ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmeka

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Tim Halloran
Gosh, I sure hope some people do this. I so would if I had the means. Tim Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:52:31 -0800 From: i...@40frames.org To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp The upside? It's a good time to pick up Cen

Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Jay Hudson
You forget that the most films per year are made in the Hindi language. As for experimental film, orwo is now with north american site, fuji could persist, and kodak's assets could be valuable. Basically, it is all up in the air. For commercials, the writing is clearly on the wall, but we are not

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Aaron F. Ross
The comparison to the well-documented rail atrocities committed by GM and Firestone is apt. However, that does not stop reality from existing. The removal of analog projectors from theaters, via strong-arm tactics or not, is something that is happening and cannot be stopped by us. It is wise to

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Camper
Programmers I know say that it is harder and harder to rent 35mm prints. Studios try to offer blu-ray, or, better, 4 K files on hard drives. Sometimes they don't make prints anymore. And archives, as a result, are now overwhelmed with requests for prints, and are cutting back and limiting h

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 11/16/2011 5:21:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, f...@fredcamper.com writes: Sadly, we should probably be thinking about whether there are improvements to 4K and digital projection systems that will get us closer to the look of films that may soon not be available on fi

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Adam R. Levine
> > > In a message dated 11/16/2011 20:26:01 -0500 (EST) > carli...@aol.com writes: > > I also think that this "look" appeal-thing is like wanting to buy a > blow-up doll as a substitute for a girlfriend. > > Indeed. Food for thought right there. ___ Fra

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread D Dawson
Why use a potter¹s wheel when you can get something manufactured out of plastic? Film will be for the potters, and video will be for the plastics of the commercial industry. On 11/16/11 7:38 PM, "Adam R. Levine" wrote: >> >> In a message dated 11/16/2011 20:26:01 -0500 (EST) >> carli...@aol.c

Re: [Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Shumona Goel
I hate to break the news - but India, may not be holding out for filmI'm also not so sure about lauding the volume of Bollywood productions. Filmmakers working with film may actually have been better off with fewer. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Jay Hudson wrote: > You forget that th

[Frameworks] MSNBC: "Report: 35mm film will be dead by 2015"

2011-11-16 Thread Chris Kennedy
"By the end of 2012, the share of 35mm will decline to 37 percent of global cinema screens, with digital accounting for the remaining 63 percent. This represents a dramatic decline for 35mm, which was used in 68 percent of global cinema screens in 2010. In 2015, 35mm will be used in just 17 percent

Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp

2011-11-16 Thread Tim Halloran
It is not just about replicating the "look" of film, whatever that means on a physical surface level. It is more about what "happens" when you view real film--the nature of projected film demands a kind of physiological and cognitive processing that is simply absent with digital projection. In