Re: [Frameworks] {Disarmed} Re: Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread nicky . hamlyn
The long films were made with an Auricon single system camera that records sync sound directly onto the film (either optical or magnetic). This is what Warhol used for the long take sound films and, if I'm not mistaken, also used for films like Bike Boy, where there are loads of in-camera

[Frameworks] Vexing

2012-02-13 Thread ch...@signaltoground.com
I've also see the research that connects Satie with Warhol (my partner did research on Sleep), but can't fill in as I'm traveling. Ironic that a nice piece of curation is called impatient and pandering by people who can't read to the end of a paragraph. Chris who are the brain police? - Zappa

Re: [Frameworks] {Disarmed} Re: Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Jonathan Walley
Regarding SLEEP: the definitive source on Warhol's filmmaking, Callie Angell, explains that SLEEP was indeed made with the Bolex using 100- ft. rolls, on which Warhol made multiple shots (i.e. not simply letting the full 100 feet run in one take as in the screen tests), which were

[Frameworks] Hermitage Film Program No.Ten - 2/16 - Brooklyn, NY

2012-02-13 Thread Ryan Marino
I'm posting this for the good folk at The Brother Elysium. * * Hermitage Film Program No. Ten ***Thursday February 16th, 8pm* *The Arm - 281 N7th St. Brooklyn NY* * * *We will be screening the following four films for this program:* * * James Benning - Chicago Loop 1976 16mm 8min Stan

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about that situation these days. I guess I was thinking of that story about Stan Brakhage who apparently did not at all like the film at 24fps, but when he saw it over again at silent speed {presumably 16fps (?) } it

Re: [Frameworks] Vexing

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
I stand corrected. I see now from the original advertisement that the music performance is not simultaneous. I jumped to premature conclusions because I know there is a lot of that going on these days. On Feb 13, 2012, at 12:40 AM, ch...@signaltoground.com wrote: I've also see the

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Fred Camper
Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net: ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about that situation these days. I guess I was thinking of that story about Stan Brakhage who apparently did not at all like the film at 24fps, but when he saw it over again at

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
huh, guess I missed that yesterday when I was hurrying out of the house. How and why do stories like that get started anyway? On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote: Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net: ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of touch about

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
Fred, Is that erroneous story actually in print somewhere? I think that may be how and why I even knew of it, and is this discrediting of the story also in print somewhere? Probably should be. Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote: Quoting Myron Ort z...@sonic.net:

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Eric Theise
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: How and why do stories like that get started anyway? That particular story got started because Jonas Mekas told it. It continues to be told because it's a good story, and it's lodged in the collective memory due to the

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely encounter that story? Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Theise wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: How and why do stories like that get started anyway? That particular story

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Hyman
Only you can answer that... On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, Myron Ort z...@sonic.net wrote: In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely encounter that story? Myron Ort On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Theise wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Pierce, Greg
The essay with the apocryphal story is in Notes After Reseeing the Films of Andy Warhol by Jonas Mekas. First published in Andy Warhol by John Coplans in 1970. Reprinted in Andy Warhol Film Factory by Michael O'Pray in 1989. ~ Greg ps: More later.

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Pierce, Greg
Delete in after is as you read. Thanks -Original Message- From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Pierce, Greg Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:05 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Andy

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Myron Ort
Still not sure which book I saw the story, but I did find this, so the discrediting was in print: Pittsburg Post Gazette, Weekend Mag, Friday, February 6, 1998 Legend has it that Brakhage was watching Warhol’s “Sleep” (which consists of a sleeping person) and hated it. Someone in the room

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread John Matturri
Not impossible that there was an offhand, perhaps even sarcastically intended, remark that Mekas repeated or wrote down in his column and which Brakhage just forgot making. Print has an odd power to take slight anecdotes and give them a status beyond their initial intent. (My own remembering,

Re: [Frameworks] Andy Warhol's SLEEP / Providence, RI / Feb 18 / Magic Lantern + RK Projects

2012-02-13 Thread Steve Polta
Of course, Gehr's extension of A Trip Down Market Street into his EUREKA (by step-printing each frame in original eight times (I believe)) is separate from projection speed; Gehr's EUKEKA is properly run, for the record at 24fps. Notably, this sound/speed silent speed results in other effects

[Frameworks] 50ft Lomo Tank

2012-02-13 Thread Kevin Timmins
Does anyone have a 50ft Lomo Tank for sale with all its bits? Kev ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

[Frameworks] US civil rights related films?

2012-02-13 Thread ev petrol
Hey folks a friend of mine is looking for films about civil rights issues in the US - historical or contemporary (eg: the prison industrial system, the school to prison pipeline, the justice system, death row, police brutality c c) - for a series of screenings in New Orleans any ideas? cheers

[Frameworks] 100D problem / silicone?

2012-02-13 Thread ev petrol
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Re: [Frameworks] US civil rights related films?

2012-02-13 Thread Warren Cockerham
*The Murder of Fred Hampton* (1971).. By Howard Alk and Mike Gray of The Film Group Inc. -- an often forgotten or unknown assassination of a 21-year old Human Rights leader orchestrated by J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI's Cointelpro program and the Chicago Police. Available on video at Facets. If you're

Re: [Frameworks] US civil rights related films?

2012-02-13 Thread Pablo Marin
Lynne Sachs' Investigation of a Flame? --- On Tue, 2/14/12, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: From: Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] US civil rights related films? To: ev petrol epetr...@yahoo.com, Experimental Film Discussion List

Re: [Frameworks] US civil rights related films?

2012-02-13 Thread Jason Halprin
IN LOVING MEMORY by Robert Todd is a poetic and emotional film about death row inmates. You may also consider A PERFECT FILM by Ken Jacobs. -JH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com

[Frameworks] more on projector speeds

2012-02-13 Thread David Tetzlaff
That graphic I was sending to Josh Guilford notes an interesting feature of the Pageant 250S, which relates to the whole discussion of how projection affects the 'look' of a film, not just the duration. Almost all projectors have a 3-blade shutter, so at 16fps they flicker 48 time-per-second,

Re: [Frameworks] more on projector speeds

2012-02-13 Thread nicky . hamlyn
Brilliant, especially the last bit, which raises the whole issue of whether it's appropriate to show older work on new equipment. There was a great show at the Hamburger Bahnhof in Berlin about four years ago called Beyond Cinema: The Art of Projection, in which all the work was shown on