Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
>From Hollywood, of course the classic editing scene is the shower scene in Psycho. But, my highest recommendation for editing in main-stream film is the amazing "The Hurt Locker," which is the most tightly edited film, throughout, that I've ever seen. And, it won an Academy Award. Ken B. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty, nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1775 "I know that the hypnotized never lie... Do ya?" Pete Townshend 1971 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Patrick Friel wrote: > Hi All, > > Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again > (solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to > show more clips from "non-experimental" films, particularly narrative, that > utilize experimental editing techniques. Ideally things from the past 20 > or so years, that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's > frame of reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international > art house cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would > welcome any ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can). Two of the > films that the kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA > RUN and ENTER THE VOID, for example. > > Best, > > Patrick Friel > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
Process Red and Critical Mass by Hollis Frampton. Matt http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007 From: Tim Halloran To: Experimental Film Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed Check out the "non-cut" space/time transitions in John Sayles' LONE STAR. Interesting and a wonderful effect. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:29 AM, "Patrick Friel" wrote: Hi All, >Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again >(solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to show >more clips from "non-experimental" films, particularly narrative, that utilize >experimental editing techniques. Ideally things from the past 20 or so years, >that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's frame of >reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international art house >cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would welcome any >ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can). Two of the films that the >kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA RUN and ENTER THE >VOID, for example. >Best, >Patrick Friel ___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
The opening of 'Don't Look Now'. Works great with students. Also Roeg incuts sex with a tracheotomy in "Bad Timing" which, while 'experimental'ish (Eisensteinian for sure) may be dicey for students due to the subject matter. As in the montages in 'Requiem...' narrative filmmakers often turn to avant-garde motifs when they want to represent subjective experience outside of normal consciousness: drugs in that case, but extreme stress etc. in others. So you'll find some things in films like Donnie Darko, Memento, Fight Club... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
Two films by Aronofsky- Requiem for a Dream and Pi. He uses montage techniques not usually found in mainstream narrative films today. Both fim date from 199-2002. Inception has some very Cocteau like moments. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
Check out the "non-cut" space/time transitions in John Sayles' LONE STAR. Interesting and a wonderful effect. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:29 AM, "Patrick Friel" wrote: > Hi All, > > Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again > (solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to > show more clips from "non-experimental" films, particularly narrative, that > utilize experimental editing techniques. Ideally things from the past 20 or > so years, that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's frame > of reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international art house > cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would welcome any > ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can). Two of the films that the > kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA RUN and ENTER THE > VOID, for example. > > Best, > > Patrick Friel > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
There's a very good discussion of a scene in The Matrix and how the editing is directed by Dolby 5.1 sound as the organizing principle for understanding space and narration in the sequence where Neo enters a high rise office building and with his companion and has to gun his way through the lobby against dozens of opponents. Mark Kerins, Beyond Dolby (Stereo): Cinema in the Digital Sound Age. Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 2010. This is excellent for showing students how "conventional" editing can be surpassed by a technological change which allows for new ways to configure space and time. Chuck Kleinhans ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Editing examples - suggestions needed
Gotta show 'em Rob Todd's Star Wars wipe-transitions edit... On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Patrick Friel wrote: > Hi All, > > Looking for examples for the Experimental Editing class I'm teaching again > (solo this time!). I'm set with the actual experimental work, but want to > show more clips from "non-experimental" films, particularly narrative, that > utilize experimental editing techniques. Ideally things from the past 20 > or so years, that would be in the average 20-ish year old film student's > frame of reference. Blockbusters, mall pictures, Hollywood, international > art house cinema, etc. I don't ordinarily see a lot of this work, so would > welcome any ideas (cite a scene or specific part if you can). Two of the > films that the kids pick on their own for their presentations are RUN LOLA > RUN and ENTER THE VOID, for example. > > Best, > > Patrick Friel > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
