Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Kerstin Schroedinger]

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> On 18. Aug 2020, at 6:53 PM, Francisco Torres  wrote:
> 
> I guess Bazin and Kracauer were not much into animation. Deleuze much less.
> 
> 2020-08-16 17:42 GMT-04:00, Cecilia Dougherty :
>> I know, Francisco! c
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Francisco Torres 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> when i was in film school it used to bother me that in most film
>>> theory books animation was not even mentioned, as if it did not exist
>>> or as if it was not part of cinema at all. then i thought that all of
>>> cinema is animation, the camera breaks down the image into frames,
>>> then the projector screens it giving the illusion of continuity. so
>>> all film theory is abour animation.
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Francisco Torres]

I guess Bazin and Kracauer were not much into animation. Deleuze much less.

2020-08-16 17:42 GMT-04:00, Cecilia Dougherty :
> I know, Francisco! c
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Francisco Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> when i was in film school it used to bother me that in most film
>> theory books animation was not even mentioned, as if it did not exist
>> or as if it was not part of cinema at all. then i thought that all of
>> cinema is animation, the camera breaks down the image into frames,
>> then the projector screens it giving the illusion of continuity. so
>> all film theory is abour animation.
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Cecilia Dougherty]

I know, Francisco! c

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 2:03 PM Francisco Torres 
wrote:

> when i was in film school it used to bother me that in most film
> theory books animation was not even mentioned, as if it did not exist
> or as if it was not part of cinema at all. then i thought that all of
> cinema is animation, the camera breaks down the image into frames,
> then the projector screens it giving the illusion of continuity. so
> all film theory is abour animation.
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Cecilia Dougherty]

Thanks, Eric! fantastic.
Cecilia

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 3:00 PM Eric Theise  wrote:

> Francisco, Ceciia, others,
>
> I decided to trace my steps back to what led to my interest in the late
> Hannah Frank's "Frame by Frame: A Materialist Aesthetics of Animated
> Cartoons". It was J. Hoberman's review in Artforum, Sept 2019, which I read
> in print and to which I don't have access online though it's here if you do:
>
>
> https://www.artforum.com/print/201907/j-hoberman-on-hannah-frank-s-frame-by-frame-a-materialist-aesthetics-of-animated-cartoons-80518
>
> Turns out her book's available for free in several download formats.
> https://luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.65/
>
> I am going to try and read through it in the next couple of weeks so if
> anyone's interested in discussing it, please be in touch.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:03 Francisco Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> when i was in film school it used to bother me that in most film
>>
>> theory books animation was not even mentioned, as if it did not exist
>>
>> or as if it was not part of cinema at all. then i thought that all of
>>
>> cinema is animation, the camera breaks down the image into frames,
>>
>> then the projector screens it giving the illusion of continuity. so
>>
>> all film theory is abour animation.
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Eric Theise]

Francisco, Ceciia, others,

I decided to trace my steps back to what led to my interest in the late
Hannah Frank's "Frame by Frame: A Materialist Aesthetics of Animated
Cartoons". It was J. Hoberman's review in Artforum, Sept 2019, which I read
in print and to which I don't have access online though it's here if you do:

https://www.artforum.com/print/201907/j-hoberman-on-hannah-frank-s-frame-by-frame-a-materialist-aesthetics-of-animated-cartoons-80518

Turns out her book's available for free in several download formats.
https://luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.65/

I am going to try and read through it in the next couple of weeks so if
anyone's interested in discussing it, please be in touch.

Eric


On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:03 Francisco Torres  wrote:

> when i was in film school it used to bother me that in most film
>
> theory books animation was not even mentioned, as if it did not exist
>
> or as if it was not part of cinema at all. then i thought that all of
>
> cinema is animation, the camera breaks down the image into frames,
>
> then the projector screens it giving the illusion of continuity. so
>
> all film theory is abour animation.
>
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Cecilia Dougherty]

Thanks everyone, Ron, Suzie, Robert Harris - great suggestions, Marcin-
Global Animation Theory reall looks juicy! Christopher Ball - thank you!
Michael - very interested, and Eric Theise, the Light Industry Bookshop
list. Excellent.
cd

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:05 PM Cecilia Dougherty <
cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
>
> --
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> 
>
>

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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Cecilia Dougherty]

Thank you, Michael!
much obliged,
Cecilia D.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:22 PM Michael Betancourt <
hinterland.mov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wrote something in 2002. You can see it here: "Motion Perception in
> Movies and Painting"
>
> http://ctheory.net/ctheory_wp/motion-perception-in-movies-and-painting-towards-a-new-kinetic-art/
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> mich...@michaelbetancourt.com
> Sent from my phone
>
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Cecilia Dougherty <
> cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
>
> --
> Cecilia Dougherty
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[robert harris]

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> On Aug 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Christopher Ball  wrote:
> 
> Walt disney and Europe. European Influences on Disney by Robin Allan. 
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> 
> The newest one: “Global Animation Theory” - 
> https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/global-animation-theory-9781501337130/ 
> <https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/global-animation-theory-9781501337130/>
> There is a plethora of books on animation theory.
> Marcin Giżycki
>  
> From:  FrameWorks  <mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com>> On Behalf Of Cecilia 
> Dougherty
> Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2020 6:06 PM
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>  
> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or 
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of 
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Marcin Gizycki]

The newest one: “Global Animation Theory” - 
https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/global-animation-theory-9781501337130/
There is a plethora of books on animation theory.
Marcin Giżycki

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Dougherty
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Subject: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or 
history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of 
animation. Any suggestions of titles?
Thank you!
Cecilia Dougherty

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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Ronald E. Gregg]

Greetings Cecilia!

I wonder if *The Sharpest Point: Animation at the End of Cinema* would
have a few helpful readings.

All best Ron

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:34 PM Eric Theise  wrote:

> Hi Cecilia,
>
> Your question prompted me to finally look at Light Industry's "bookshop",
> which has a section on animation. Most of the titles are of the type you're
> not seeking but a few might qualify.
>
> https://bookshop.org/lists/animation
>
> Paul Taberham comes at animation through cognition and might have some
> recommendations; friendly and helpful fellow, contact him.
>
> https://paultaberham.academia.edu/research
>
> I've been meaning to read "Frame by Frame: A Materialist Aesthetics of
> Animated Cartoons" by
> Hannah Frank. If you or anyone else are interested maybe a Zoom reading
> group would provide discipline and camaraderie.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:06 AM Cecilia Dougherty <
> cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
>> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
>> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
>> Thank you!
>> Cecilia Dougherty
>>
>> --
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Ronald E. Gregg]

Suzie beat me to the draw! :)

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:48 PM Ronald E. Gregg  wrote:

> Greetings Cecilia!
>
> I wonder if *The Sharpest Point: Animation at the End of Cinema* would
> have a few helpful readings.
>
> All best Ron
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:34 PM Eric Theise  wrote:
>
>> Hi Cecilia,
>>
>> Your question prompted me to finally look at Light Industry's "bookshop",
>> which has a section on animation. Most of the titles are of the type you're
>> not seeking but a few might qualify.
>>
>> https://bookshop.org/lists/animation
>>
>> Paul Taberham comes at animation through cognition and might have some
>> recommendations; friendly and helpful fellow, contact him.
>>
>> https://paultaberham.academia.edu/research
>>
>> I've been meaning to read "Frame by Frame: A Materialist Aesthetics of
>> Animated Cartoons" by
>> Hannah Frank. If you or anyone else are interested maybe a Zoom reading
>> group would provide discipline and camaraderie.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:06 AM Cecilia Dougherty <
>> cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
>>> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
>>> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
>>> Thank you!
>>> Cecilia Dougherty
>>>
>>> --
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>>> https://www.ceciliadougherty.com/ 
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Eric Theise]

Hi Cecilia,

Your question prompted me to finally look at Light Industry's "bookshop",
which has a section on animation. Most of the titles are of the type you're
not seeking but a few might qualify.

https://bookshop.org/lists/animation

Paul Taberham comes at animation through cognition and might have some
recommendations; friendly and helpful fellow, contact him.

https://paultaberham.academia.edu/research

I've been meaning to read "Frame by Frame: A Materialist Aesthetics of
Animated Cartoons" by
Hannah Frank. If you or anyone else are interested maybe a Zoom reading
group would provide discipline and camaraderie.

Eric


On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:06 AM Cecilia Dougherty <
cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
>
> --
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Re: [Frameworks] books on animation theory?

[Suzie Silver]

The Sharpest Point: Animation at the End of Cinema
The Animation Studies Reader
Understanding Animation
Sergei Eisenstein on Disney
The Anime Machine: A Media Theory of Animation



On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM Michael Betancourt <
hinterland.mov...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wrote something in 2002. You can see it here: "Motion Perception in
> Movies and Painting"
>
> http://ctheory.net/ctheory_wp/motion-perception-in-movies-and-painting-towards-a-new-kinetic-art/
>
> Michael Betancourt
>
> mich...@michaelbetancourt.com
> Sent from my phone
>
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Cecilia Dougherty <
> cecilia.doughe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
>
> --
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[Michael Betancourt]

I wrote something in 2002. You can see it here: "Motion Perception in Movies 
and Painting"
http://ctheory.net/ctheory_wp/motion-perception-in-movies-and-painting-towards-a-new-kinetic-art/

Michael Betancourt

mich...@michaelbetancourt.com
Sent from my phone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Cecilia Dougherty  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm looking for books on animation theory, not about animation how-to or 
> history of, but articles, anthologies, texts that discuss theories of 
> animation. Any suggestions of titles?
> Thank you!
> Cecilia Dougherty
> 
> -- 
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