Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-05-14 Thread franco base
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2013/5/14 Francisco Torres 

> B/W Did you finally figure out the devolping method?
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:51 AM, franco base wrote:
>
>> Hi Franciso.
>> I don't use filter beacuse I'm shooting on Tri-x.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/13 Francisco Torres 
>>
>>> Why not just use a filter?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, franco base wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Josh.
>>>> It works. Non bad
>>>>
>>>> Now I'd to try toner (yellow and Blu).
>>>> Have you got some experience?
>>>> Standard process is to to use toner after fix.
>>>> Have you tried after the first development.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/2/8 Joey 
>>>>
>>>>> Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   --
>>>>> *From:* Josh Lewis McConnell 
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List <
>>>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
>>>>>
>>>>> Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
>>>>> film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
>>>>> will usually stain the film brown/orange.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> 1717 Troutman Street
>>>>> Suite 244
>>>>> Ridgewood, NY 11385
>>>>> (201) 952 23866
>>>>> m.joshuale...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Thanks you have right.
>>>>> > Stupid error.
>>>>> > I try again and I have the positive Image,
>>>>> > but not yellow/brown effect.
>>>>> > Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
>>>>> > but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
>>>>> > remove all the toning.
>>>>> > It's strange.
>>>>> > Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
>>>>> > but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
>>>>> > because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver
>>>>> image
>>>>> >> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the
>>>>> emulsion.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but
>>>>> gives
>>>>> >> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>>>>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-05-14 Thread Francisco Torres
B/W Did you finally figure out the devolping method?


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:51 AM, franco base  wrote:

> Hi Franciso.
> I don't use filter beacuse I'm shooting on Tri-x.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/5/13 Francisco Torres 
>
>> Why not just use a filter?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, franco base wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh.
>>> It works. Non bad
>>>
>>> Now I'd to try toner (yellow and Blu).
>>> Have you got some experience?
>>> Standard process is to to use toner after fix.
>>> Have you tried after the first development.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/2/8 Joey 
>>>
>>>> Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Joey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   --
>>>> *From:* Josh Lewis McConnell 
>>>>
>>>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
>>>>
>>>> Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
>>>> film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
>>>> will usually stain the film brown/orange.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>> 1717 Troutman Street
>>>> Suite 244
>>>> Ridgewood, NY 11385
>>>> (201) 952 23866
>>>> m.joshuale...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Thanks you have right.
>>>> > Stupid error.
>>>> > I try again and I have the positive Image,
>>>> > but not yellow/brown effect.
>>>> > Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
>>>> > but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
>>>> > remove all the toning.
>>>> > It's strange.
>>>> > Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
>>>> > but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
>>>> > because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver
>>>> image
>>>> >> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the
>>>> emulsion.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but
>>>> gives
>>>> >> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>>>> >> --scott
>>>> >> ___
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-05-14 Thread franco base
Hi Franciso.
I don't use filter beacuse I'm shooting on Tri-x.




2013/5/13 Francisco Torres 

> Why not just use a filter?
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, franco base wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh.
>> It works. Non bad
>>
>> Now I'd to try toner (yellow and Blu).
>> Have you got some experience?
>> Standard process is to to use toner after fix.
>> Have you tried after the first development.
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/8 Joey 
>>
>>> Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.
>>>
>>> Joey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ------
>>> *From:* Josh Lewis McConnell 
>>>
>>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
>>>
>>> Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
>>> film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
>>> will usually stain the film brown/orange.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> 1717 Troutman Street
>>> Suite 244
>>> Ridgewood, NY 11385
>>> (201) 952 23866
>>> m.joshuale...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thanks you have right.
>>> > Stupid error.
>>> > I try again and I have the positive Image,
>>> > but not yellow/brown effect.
>>> > Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
>>> > but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
>>> > remove all the toning.
>>> > It's strange.
>>> > Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
>>> > but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
>>> > because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>>> >>
>>> >> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver
>>> image
>>> >> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the
>>> emulsion.
>>> >>
>>> >> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>>> >>
>>> >> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but
>>> gives
>>> >> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>>> >> --scott
>>> >> ___
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>>> >
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-05-13 Thread Francisco Torres
Why not just use a filter?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, franco base  wrote:

> Thanks Josh.
> It works. Non bad
>
> Now I'd to try toner (yellow and Blu).
> Have you got some experience?
> Standard process is to to use toner after fix.
> Have you tried after the first development.
>
> Ciao
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/8 Joey 
>
>> Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.
>>
>> Joey
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Josh Lewis McConnell 
>>
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
>>
>> Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
>> film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
>> will usually stain the film brown/orange.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> 1717 Troutman Street
>> Suite 244
>> Ridgewood, NY 11385
>> (201) 952 23866
>> m.joshuale...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base 
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks you have right.
>> > Stupid error.
>> > I try again and I have the positive Image,
>> > but not yellow/brown effect.
>> > Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
>> > but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
>> > remove all the toning.
>> > It's strange.
>> > Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
>> > but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
>> > because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>> >>
>> >> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
>> >> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the
>> emulsion.
>> >>
>> >> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>> >>
>> >> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
>> >> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>> >> --scott
>> >> ___
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-05-12 Thread franco base
Thanks Josh.
It works. Non bad

Now I'd to try toner (yellow and Blu).
Have you got some experience?
Standard process is to to use toner after fix.
Have you tried after the first development.

Ciao






2013/2/8 Joey 

> Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.
>
> Joey
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Josh Lewis McConnell 
>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
>
> Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
> film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
> will usually stain the film brown/orange.
>
> Josh
>
> 1717 Troutman Street
> Suite 244
> Ridgewood, NY 11385
> (201) 952 23866
> m.joshuale...@gmail.com
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base  wrote:
> > Thanks you have right.
> > Stupid error.
> > I try again and I have the positive Image,
> > but not yellow/brown effect.
> > Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
> > but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
> > remove all the toning.
> > It's strange.
> > Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
> > but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
> > because I don't care long and stable effetc.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
> >>
> >> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
> >> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the
> emulsion.
> >>
> >> You need some kind of redevelopment.
> >>
> >> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
> >> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-08 Thread Joey
Franco, listen to Josh. He knows his stuff.

Joey





 From: Josh Lewis McConnell 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List  
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
 
Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
will usually stain the film brown/orange.

Josh

1717 Troutman Street
Suite 244
Ridgewood, NY 11385
(201) 952 23866
m.joshuale...@gmail.com

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base  wrote:
> Thanks you have right.
> Stupid error.
> I try again and I have the positive Image,
> but not yellow/brown effect.
> Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
> but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
> remove all the toning.
> It's strange.
> Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
> but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
> because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>>
>> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
>> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the emulsion.
>>
>> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>>
>> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
>> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-08 Thread Josh Lewis McConnell
Franco--try switching to a potassium dichromate bleach, then wash the
film only with very cold water before the redevelopment--the residue
will usually stain the film brown/orange.

Josh

1717 Troutman Street
Suite 244
Ridgewood, NY 11385
(201) 952 23866
m.joshuale...@gmail.com

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:33 AM, franco base  wrote:
> Thanks you have right.
> Stupid error.
> I try again and I have the positive Image,
> but not yellow/brown effect.
> Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
> but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
> remove all the toning.
> It's strange.
> Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
> but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
> because I don't care long and stable effetc.
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 
>>
>> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
>> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the emulsion.
>>
>> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>>
>> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
>> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
>> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-08 Thread franco base
Thanks you have right.
Stupid error.
I try again and I have the positive Image,
but not yellow/brown effect.
Naturally after bleach the the film was yellow/brown
but the second exposition and the second development and the fix
remove all the toning.
It's strange.
Maybe I will'try with sepia toning
but I'd prefer have it with bleach,
because I don't care long and stable effetc.




2013/2/5 Scott Dorsey 

> Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
> away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the emulsion.
>
> You need some kind of redevelopment.
>
> Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
> a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-05 Thread Scott Dorsey
Okay... you have developed a silver image bleached the silver image
away, then the fixer removes all residual latent silver from the emulsion.

You need some kind of redevelopment.

Have you considered sepia toning it?  It's stinky and a pain, but gives
a stable long-lasting yellow-brown image.
--scott
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-05 Thread John Woods
Well I noticed that you don't have a 2nd developer step. After bleaching you 
are supposed to re-expose and do a 2nd developer to reveal the latent positive 
image and then you fix.




 From: franco base 
To: Experimental Film Discussion List ; 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:35:39 AM
Subject: [Frameworks] yellow brown film
 

Hi.

I want a film with yellow/brown abstract image.

So following my usual development reversal process,I have jumped the clear bath.

But something didn't work beacuse I have a completely transparent film.


So the process I use is :


- first developer (Neutol 1+3) 12 min

- wash 5 minutes

- Bleach 5 minutes ( solution A: Potassium permanganate (KMnO4) 4g /liter + 
solution B:Sodium hydrogen sulfate (NaHSO4) 35g/liter )

-Fix 1+7 5 minutes

-wash



What is wrong?

Mybe this kind of Bleach (In my usually reversal process it works very well)

Any tips?


thanks
f.


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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-05 Thread kenneth curwood
i mean after the bleach i forgot you intentionally skipped the clear bath

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM, kenneth curwood
wrote:

> looks like perhaps you missed a step after the clear bath...  to re-expose
> the film to light and do a second developer...
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM, franco base wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>> I want a film with yellow/brown abstract image.
>> So following my usual development reversal process,I have jumped the
>> clear bath.
>> But something didn't work beacuse I have a completely transparent film.
>>
>> So the process I use is :
>>
>> - first developer (Neutol 1+3) 12 min
>> - wash 5 minutes
>> - Bleach 5 minutes ( solution A: Potassium permanganate (KMnO4) 4g
>> /liter + solution B: Sodium hydrogen sulfat*e (**NaHSO4) 35g/liter )
>> *
>> -Fix 1+7 5 minutes
>> -wash
>>
>>
>> What is wrong?
>> Mybe this kind of Bleach (In my usually reversal process it works very
>> well)
>> Any tips?
>>
>> thanks
>> f.
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] yellow brown film

2013-02-05 Thread kenneth curwood
looks like perhaps you missed a step after the clear bath...  to re-expose
the film to light and do a second developer...

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:35 PM, franco base  wrote:

> Hi.
> I want a film with yellow/brown abstract image.
> So following my usual development reversal process,I have jumped the clear
> bath.
> But something didn't work beacuse I have a completely transparent film.
>
> So the process I use is :
>
> - first developer (Neutol 1+3) 12 min
> - wash 5 minutes
> - Bleach 5 minutes ( solution A: Potassium permanganate (KMnO4) 4g /liter
> + solution B: Sodium hydrogen sulfat*e (**NaHSO4) 35g/liter )
> *
> -Fix 1+7 5 minutes
> -wash
>
>
> What is wrong?
> Mybe this kind of Bleach (In my usually reversal process it works very
> well)
> Any tips?
>
> thanks
> f.
>
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