Re: [free-software-melb] Conflict between software freedom and trademark restrictions

2013-07-22 Thread Glenn McIntosh
On 21/07/13 13:02, Ben Finney wrote: I think that trademark has a significant benefit to society, which is to limit the tendencies of vendors to misrepresent their modified works as though being whatever the customer is looking for — even if that vendor has made incompatible or undesirable

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Bolte
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:50:51PM +1000, Adrian Colomitchi wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Adam Bolte abo...@systemsaviour.com writes: Once again, your definition conflicts with what the legal Free Dictionary appears to

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Adrian Colomitchi acolomit...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Adam Bolte abo...@systemsaviour.com writes: Once again, your definition conflicts with what the legal Free Dictionary appears to be (linked above). A

Re: [free-software-melb] Conflict between software freedom and trademark restrictions

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Glenn McIntosh neonsig...@memepress.org writes: Ben, I'd be interested in your (and others) opinion on the way Trisquel have given guidelines for the use of their trademark (http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trademark-guidelines). Though I'm not sure what the legal status of such guidelines are.

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au writes: Rather, my point is that these categories are not exclusive. Works commonly inhabit several of these categories simultaneously, and it's clearly false

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Adrian Colomitchi acolomit...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: From that it follows that it's unjust to deny the freedoms that accrue for functional use of a work, merely because the copyright holder doesn't think it

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Adrian Colomitchi acolomit...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: From that it follows that it's unjust to deny the freedoms that