Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-09-07 Thread Brian May
Resurrecting old thread. Adam Bolte writes: > The getmail changelog would suggest it is still supported, with the most > recent release being from late August. > > http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/CHANGELOG Are there any alternatives for getmail? It looks like upstream are not willing to

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-01-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 8/1/20 7:54 am, Brian May wrote: > Andrew McGlashan writes: > >> Application passwords were, arguably, less secure than what you >> could actually use as a password and you lost the 2FA aspect of >> the login. So, lots of room for

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-01-07 Thread Brian May
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Application passwords were, arguably, less secure than what you could > actually use as a password and you lost the 2FA aspect of the login. > So, lots of room for improvement. No, not really. e.g. if you look at the getmail implementation, it is still just storing a

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-01-06 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 7/1/20 11:57 am, Adam Bolte wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 06:13:07PM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> I notice the instructions say "The resulting setup is not more >> secure than a regular getmailrc with 0600 permissions." - which >> is no

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-01-06 Thread Adam Bolte
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 06:13:07PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > I notice the instructions say "The resulting setup is not more secure > than a regular getmailrc with 0600 permissions." - which is no surprise > really. As I understand it, there is arguably a *slight* security improvement in the

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2020-01-01 Thread Brian May
Adam Bolte writes: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 07:39:57AM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> Is there anything you know of similar to fetchmail? I currently am using >> fetchmail + notmuch. > > If offlineimap isn't your thing, getmail looks like it'll do the job, at > least at a glance. Looks like

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-27 Thread Glenn McIntosh
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:12 PM Brian May wrote: > email I received from Google today saying that they intend to phase out > support for username/password authentication for LSA ("less secure > apps") using protocols such as IMAP, and require using OAuth > authentication instead. > I am not

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Adam Bolte
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 05:21:43PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Last time I looked, getmail upstream development was dead, and only > supported Python 2.7. So I switched from getmail to fetchmail. It also > had problems handling timeout errors from a dead SSL connection, and > would hang for ever. >

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Matt Cengia
Ah, thanks for that. Here's a link to the same announcement on the Google Blog: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/12/less-secure-apps-oauth-google-username-password-incorrect.html It does seem odd that they'd be deprecating App passwords too, but it certainly sounds like they might be.

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Brian May
"Matt Cengia" writes: > Hi Brian, > > Are you able to provide a quote of this email from Google or any website it > links to? I don't use Gmail any more, so haven't received it, but am > interested in its contents. > > In particular, does it state it's removing *all* password auth from > IMAP,

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Brian May
Adam Bolte writes: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 07:39:57AM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> Is there anything you know of similar to fetchmail? I currently am using >> fetchmail + notmuch. > > If offlineimap isn't your thing, getmail looks like it'll do the job, at > least at a glance. Last time I

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Matt Cengia
Hi Brian, Are you able to provide a quote of this email from Google or any website it links to? I don't use Gmail any more, so haven't received it, but am interested in its contents. In particular, does it state it's removing *all* password auth from IMAP, or just that you'd need to use app

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Adam Bolte
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 07:39:57AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Is there anything you know of similar to fetchmail? I currently am using > fetchmail + notmuch. If offlineimap isn't your thing, getmail looks like it'll do the job, at least at a glance.

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-18 Thread Brian May
Adam Bolte writes: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 05:12:08PM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> I am not aware of any open source IMAP client software that can use >> OAuth. > > Although I haven't tried yet, I'm pretty sure Thunderbird and > offlineimap support it. > > Thunderbird 38.0beta release notes

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-17 Thread Olivier Mehani
On Wed 18 Dec 2019 at 13:00:23 +1100, Adam Bolte wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 05:12:08PM +1100, Brian May wrote: I am not aware of any open source IMAP client software that can use OAuth. Although I haven't tried yet, I'm pretty sure Thunderbird and offlineimap support it. Thunderbird

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-17 Thread Adam Bolte
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 05:12:08PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > I am not aware of any open source IMAP client software that can use > OAuth. Although I haven't tried yet, I'm pretty sure Thunderbird and offlineimap support it. Thunderbird 38.0beta release notes (current version is 68.3.0):

Re: [free-software-melb] Google

2019-12-16 Thread Brian May
"Michael Verrenkamp" writes: > While this warning has not been seen universally by users and it > appears to be in the trail stage, this is a very worrying for the free > and open internet and the software that we use on it. Essentially the > software maker, being Google, is able to dictate what

[free-software-melb] Google, Microsoft face take-down request overload after European court ruling

2014-05-15 Thread Brian May
This has some scary implications for free speech, I think. I assume this means, for example, in the highly unlikely event a politician breaks their pre-election promises, they can request to have the offending search results deleted.

[free-software-melb] Google Play Movies and DRM

2012-05-02 Thread Brian May
For some vivid discussions, see the comments at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.videosfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC52aWRlb3MiXQ.. Some seem pro-DRM, the majority are against. Lots of people critical of restricted use if you