Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: Sorry for being so quiet recently and missing meetings, a combination of lots of work and some timetable clashes.. No-one is obligated to be chatty or quiet, so no apology necessary :-) http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html […] Chris, are you ordering one? I get annoyed with online stores that insist I create an account in order merely to buy something, and ZaReason appears to be yet another one of those. Timely given the interest in free software Android devices! Very much so. I've resisted the urge to buy a tablet hoping that someone would realise the market for a free-software-friendly one. This may be the first. But, CyanogenMod isn't free software, remember; it has a higher proportion of free software, but is still very much a non-free operating system and AFAIK has all the non-free drivers as Android. Have ZaReason made the device so that all the hardware works without any non-free software (programs, firmware, whatever) at all? -- \ Rommel: “Don't move, or I'll turn the key on this can of Spam!” | `\ —The Goon Show, _Rommel's Treasure_ | _o__) | Ben Finney pgp1kKzmpes0u.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet
On 26 April 2012 11:53, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: But, CyanogenMod isn't free software, remember; it has a higher proportion of free software, but is still very much a non-free operating system and AFAIK has all the non-free drivers as Android. AFAIK, Android itself is 100% open source software, entire source can be downloaded from git, modified, etc. I compiled it myself. Only catch is you need non-free software to compile, it seems to require Oracle's JDK 1.6, doesn't seem to work with OpenJDK (or JDK 1.7 for that matter) - not that I tried very hard here to get it to work. It is the add-ons to Android that are not open source. Very likely CyanogenMod has a number of these extra pieces, like non-free drivers. Big question is, will Replicant run on this tablet? http://replicant.us/about/ -- Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet
On 26/04/12 11:53, Ben Finney wrote: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: Chris, are you ordering one? I get annoyed with online stores that insist I create an account in order merely to buy something, and ZaReason appears to be yet another one of those. No, only interested in a netbook at the moment. But, CyanogenMod isn't free software, remember; it has a higher proportion of free software, but is still very much a non-free operating system and AFAIK has all the non-free drivers as Android. As I wrote in the blog, they're working with the Software Freedom Conservancy is pure (to use their words). Have ZaReason made the device so that all the hardware works without any non-free software (programs, firmware, whatever) at all? Yes, they have said to me that they chose the Allwinner A10 because it was the most open SoC they could find. I am not clear about the GPU driver (I presume they are using the Lima Projects fully open one) but they do appear to be making a strong effort to ensure it is fully open (and I suspect they know that if they market it as that and it isn't they will quickly get found out). cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet
On 26/04/12 13:16, Chris Samuel wrote: Yes, they have said to me that they chose the Allwinner A10 because it was the most open SoC they could find. I am not clear about the GPU driver Asked via Twitter, their response was: https://twitter.com/#!/ZaReasonNZ/status/195359671450742785 @chris_bloke Initially there may be some binary blobs. Lima isn't far enough along at this time, but we have high hopes for it. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
