[free-software-melb] Copyright law reform

2012-08-26 Thread Glenn McIntosh
The Australian Law Reform Commission is having an Inquiry into Copyright law. They are examining whether the current exceptions in the Act need to be modified in the context of what they call "the emerging digital economy". http://www.alrc.gov.au/news-media/media-release/alrc-seeks-input-copyrig

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware (was: Chipping in for an Ouya console?)

2012-08-26 Thread Adam Bolte
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04:05AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Adam Bolte > writes: > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 04:32:36PM +1000, Ben Sturmfels wrote: > > > Choosing an AMD card means I'm giving some profits to AMD, who offer > > > dramatically better support for free software. On the other hand

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware (was: Chipping in for an Ouya console?)

2012-08-26 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 01:34 +1000, Adam Bolte wrote: > > The border that is contentious is where we find devices designed to > have > > their behaviour modified, but in a rather limited way and through > > tightly restricted channels – such as upgrading the firmware at boot > > time or run time fro

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware (was: Chipping in for an Ouya console?)

2012-08-26 Thread Adam Bolte
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 09:29:19AM +1000, Adrian Colomitchi wrote: > On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 01:34 +1000, Adam Bolte wrote: > > > The border that is contentious is where we find devices designed to > > have > > > their behaviour modified, but in a rather limited way and through > > > tightly restrict

Re: [free-software-melb] Chipping in for an Ouya console?

2012-08-26 Thread Ben Sturmfels
Adam Bolte writes: > If my above assumptions are correct, why treat graphics driver firmware > specially? I'm certainly not saying it's wrong to demand free firmware, > however I'm curious why some firmware is treated differently. Is it because > one lives in your filesystem on your HDD, but the

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware

2012-08-26 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/08/12 10:04, Ben Finney wrote: > The border that is contentious is where we find devices designed to have > their behaviour modified, but in a rather limited way and through > tightly restricted channels – such as upgrading the firmware at boot > time or run time from a binary blob. Do Inte

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware

2012-08-26 Thread Chris Samuel
On 27/08/12 01:34, Adam Bolte wrote: > However, even those machines provide the option of various SSDs, > HDD&SSD hybrids (all surely requiring non-free firmware), and > even non-free BIOSs. However, all those ship with them already embedded - you may be able to upgrade them (indeed on some SSDs

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware

2012-08-26 Thread Ben Finney
Adam Bolte writes: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04:05AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > First you'd need to show that we're treating graphics firmware > > specially. I think the same criticisms are applied to vendors who > > act against freedom in network interface firmware, graphics > > firmware, r

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware

2012-08-26 Thread Ben Finney
Adam Bolte writes: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:04:05AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > First you'd need to show that we're treating graphics firmware > > specially. I think the same criticisms are applied to vendors who > > act against freedom in network interface firmware, graphics > > firmware, r

Re: [free-software-melb] Agitating for free firmware

2012-08-26 Thread Chris Samuel
On 27/08/12 01:34, Adam Bolte wrote: > For the most part however, Intel doesn't issue microcode updates. Yes they do. That's why there's an "update-intel-microcode" program included in the microcode.ctl package in Debian/Ubuntu, so you can grab the latest version they've published rather than th