Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adam Bolte
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:50:51PM +1000, Adrian Colomitchi wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Ben Finney < > ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > > > Adam Bolte > > writes: > > > > > Once again, your definition conflicts with what the legal Free > > > Dictionary appears to be (linke

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Adrian Colomitchi writes: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Ben Finney < > ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > > > Adam Bolte > > writes: > > > > > Once again, your definition conflicts with what the legal Free > > > Dictionary appears to be (linked above). A PDF is generally a product >

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Andrew Pam
On 23/07/13 10:26, Ben Finney wrote: This is distinct from a PDF renderer, which takes the input document and parses its structure and content, but then must go further and execute the result as a program in order to render to output. Actually that's not so clear; as I understand it, the subse

Re: [free-software-melb] Conflict between software freedom and trademark restrictions

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Glenn McIntosh writes: > Ben, I'd be interested in your (and others) opinion on the way Trisquel > have given "guidelines" for the use of their trademark > (http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trademark-guidelines). Though I'm not sure > what the legal status of such guidelines are. As I wrote in the a

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney writes: > Not all interpreters are interpreting executable programs as input. > Your “ASCII interpreter” is not treating the input document as a > program. It is parsing the document's structure and content, but not > executing the result as a program. A plain-text email message is dat

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney < ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Ben Finney > writes: > > > Rather, my point is that these categories are not exclusive. Works > commonly inhabit several of these categories simultaneously, and it's > clearly false to say that no document

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Ben Finney
Adrian Colomitchi writes: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > From that it follows that it's unjust to deny the freedoms that accrue > > for functional use of a work, merely because the copyright holder > > doesn't think it has functional use. > > > My argument is: "sinc

Re: [free-software-melb] GNU FDL and software freedom

2013-07-22 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ben Finney < ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > Adrian Colomitchi > writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Ben Finney < > ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > > > From that it follows that it's unjust to deny the freedoms that accrue > > > f