Re: [free-software-melb] Buying or building a computer in Melbourne

2011-10-13 Thread Adrian Colomitchi
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ben Finney
ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote:

 Howdy all,

 Where can I get satisfaction here? I need some or all of these
 functions:

 * a machine to act as ADSL + wireless router and DNS + DHCP + HTTP proxy
 * a machine to act as grunty software development workstation
 * a machine to act as thin desktop client
 * a machine to act as home theatre for video  audio

 It's not 2000 any more; even Debian now has an entirely free-software
 kernel. Now all I need is to know exactly what good-quality parts to buy
 to have the above functions. Surely I don't have to individually compile
 all these specifications myself?
Unfortunately, based on my experience, you will have to compile the specs.

Fortunately, its not 2000 any more: most of the components are
supported by kernel drivers - the horror driver stories mostly
pertains to medieval ages nowadays (even the laptops support a linux
installation out of the box).

When you decide to take the pain of spec-ing the computer(s) yourself,
I suggest you give www.msy.com.au a try. In the last 7 years, I
spec-ed the 5 computers I bought from them, they built them, performed
a 24h burn-test and offered 1 year warranty, all at a very reasonable
price. All the 5 supported a Linux without a problem.

Adrian

PS all the machines I had and have were in the grunty software
development workstation - not gaming, not 3D rendering, no
multimedia/home-theater  (except some MP3 thrown somewhere, to listen
to while coding).

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[free-software-melb] Buying or building a computer in Melbourne

2011-10-12 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all,

I want to get some machines for the home network, and I want them to be
fully supported by only-free software.

I would be happy to pay some business in Melbourne to build it from
parts and test it, and ideally be available for warranty support.


The big trouble is finding people who can meet the free-software
requirements. Saying “free software only” doesn't ring any bells with
vendors, for the familiar reasons that nobody thinks about software
freedom.

Saying “only hardware supported by Linux without binary blobs” just gets
boiled down in their head to “Linux”, and reliably leads to
disappointment when they recommend hardware that doesn't meet what I
described.

There are some resources to help with this. But pointing a vendor at
URL:http://www.h-node.com/ and asking them to choose only hardware
that gets an okay in that database is not much of an option; my money is
likely not worth it to the shop to spend their time on that site.

There are also efforts to put together computers and sell them
URL:http://open-pc.com/; but they're patchy and poorly-available and
the store interfaces are average-to-terrible. Needless to say none of
them are in Melbourne, so delivery costs are a huge factor.

Worst of all, those well-researched complete machines are almost never
specified in detail, so I can't just say to a Melbourne shop “build me
one of these, test it with this USB stick, sell it to me, and give me
warranty support”. The information just isn't there for me to take to
the shop.


Where can I get satisfaction here? I need some or all of these
functions:

* a machine to act as ADSL + wireless router and DNS + DHCP + HTTP proxy
* a machine to act as grunty software development workstation
* a machine to act as thin desktop client
* a machine to act as home theatre for video  audio

It's not 2000 any more; even Debian now has an entirely free-software
kernel. Now all I need is to know exactly what good-quality parts to buy
to have the above functions. Surely I don't have to individually compile
all these specifications myself?

-- 
 \“Human reason is snatching everything to itself, leaving |
  `\   nothing for faith.” —Bernard of Clairvaux, 1090–1153 CE |
_o__)  |
Ben Finney


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