Re: [free-software-melb] Supporting Restricted Boot statement

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Sturmfels

On 20/07/12 13:14, Ben Sturmfels wrote:

Hi Folks,

At last night's discussion group, I mentioned that I'd like to see us
support the FSF's statement on Restricted Boot vs Secure Boot:

http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement

If anyone has any thoughts, please let me know. Otherwise I'll email the
FSF this weekend.


Just letting you know that Free Software Melbourne is now listed under 
Organization and corporate signatures.


Ben
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Re: [free-software-melb] Supporting Restricted Boot statement

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Samuel
On 20/07/12 13:14, Ben Sturmfels wrote:

 There was some concern about the strong phrase We commit that we will
 neither purchase nor recommend computers that strip users of this
 critical freedom, since it is foreseeable that someone could one day
 buy one of these devices either unknowingly or because there was no
 other alternative.

I think the concern was more about not knowing what the petition said;
the actual wording is:

# We, the undersigned, urge all computer makers implementing UEFI's
# so-called Secure Boot to do it in a way that allows free software
# operating systems to be installed. To respect user freedom and truly
# protect user security, manufacturers must either allow computer
# owners to disable the boot restrictions, or provide a sure-fire way
# for them to install and run a free software operating system of their
# choice. We commit that we will neither purchase nor recommend
# computers that strip users of this critical freedom, and we will
# actively urge people in our communities to avoid such jailed systems.

In other words we won't buy systems that are locked down in UEFI to only
boot a single OS (whatever that may be), and we will tell others that we
don't think buying such systems is a good idea. I think that's fairly
reasonable.

cheers,
Chris
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Re: [free-software-melb] Supporting Restricted Boot statement

2012-07-20 Thread Chris Samuel
On 20/07/12 13:14, Ben Sturmfels wrote:

 At last night's discussion group, I mentioned that I'd like to see us
 support the FSF's statement on Restricted Boot vs Secure Boot:
 
 http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement

That petition code is broken at the moment.. :-(

# Sorry. A non-recoverable error has occurred.
# The requested Profile (gid=37) is disabled OR it is not configured
# to be used for 'Profile' listings in its Settings OR there is no
# Profile with that ID OR you do not have permission to access this
# profile. Please contact the site administrator if you need assistance.

Will report to their webmaster.

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