Re: [free-software-melb] the evil MS endgame?
Hi Andrew, Apart from not being an idiot, I could well imagine Stallman would consider this to be a serious concern also. His concerns about Ubuntu are valid when you examine his overall aim. Though I can see what he means, I'm less doctrinaire (which is either a failing in me or not) than he is and so am more willing to negotiate away some rights for a little 'soft and fluffy'. One doesn't need to be concerned about only one thing at a time. Regards, Patrick Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:19:50 +1000 From: Andrew Thornton http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2011/09/21/secure_boot_firmware_linux_exclusion_fears/ Richard Stallman is an idiot to worry about ubuntu so much that it's not in the FSF list of "free" software. May be much much more important things to be concerned about. As the Iranian proverb goes:"a drowning man doesn't worry about rain". ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
Re: [free-software-melb] the evil MS endgame?
Andrew Thornton writes: > http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2011/09/21/secure_boot_firmware_linux_exclusion_fears/ > > Richard Stallman is an idiot to worry about ubuntu so much that it's > not in the FSF list of "free" software. Ubuntu has excluded itself from being a free software operating system. I don't see that Richard Stallman worries much about Ubuntu; his position is plain. Perhaps when the state of Ubuntu changes, he'll be justified in worrying some more. > May be much much more important things to be concerned about. As the > Iranian proverb goes:"a drowning man doesn't worry about rain". Richard Stallman seems to be spending quite a bit of his energies on larger social issues; followers of his weblog can see for themselves what worries him today. I don't think we need be concerned that he's distracted by inconsequential things. More importantly, we should stop worrying about the priorities of other people and pay attention to our own; RMS's advice is valuable, but we are free to disagree and form our own priorities and convince (or not) other people as we can. -- \ “My girlfriend has a queen sized bed; I have a court jester | `\ sized bed. It's red and green and has bells on it, and the ends | _o__) curl up.” —Steven Wright | Ben Finney ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
Re: [free-software-melb] the evil MS endgame?
Andrew Thornton writes: > Richard Stallman is an idiot to worry about ubuntu so much that it's not in > the FSF list of "free" software. May be much much more important things to > be concerned about. As the Iranian proverb goes:"a drowning man doesn't > worry about rain". Thanks for sharing your opinion Andrew. As I mentioned on Saturday at Software Freedom Day when you made the same comment during my talk, I admire the ability of great activists such as Stallman to take a firm stance and stick with it, despite what others say. Far from "drowning", in 28 short years, the free software movement changed the world by writing a fully-free operating system. It may still be "raining" proprietary software, but Stallman is paddling merrily along in his free software canoe, whistling Hungarian folk tunes. :) Ben ___ Free-software-melb mailing list Free-software-melb@lists.softwarefreedom.com.au http://lists.softwarefreedom.com.au/mailman/listinfo/free-software-melb
