ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Well, for weeks now I couldn't compile (almost) any port. It seems that ports aren't tested against -current. Is that true? Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are easy to fix others aren't) also the entire new kde fails. Is there no aim to have ports running on

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:14:07AM +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Well, for weeks now I couldn't compile (almost) any port. It seems that ports aren't tested against -current. Is that true? No. Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are easy to fix others

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:14:07 +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, for weeks now I couldn't compile (almost) any port. It seems that ports aren't tested against -current. Is that true? Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are easy to fix

atapicam problem in today's kernel

2003-09-20 Thread Shin-ichi Yoshimoto
Today's kernel with atapicam said: acd0: WARNING - REQUEST_SENCE record from missing interrupt and can not boot. Without one is OK. -- Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://diary.waishi.jp/~yosimoto/diary/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: On a kernel built just a few hours ago, it hangs on boot right after: acd0: CDROM CD-532E-B at ata0-master PIO4 Get atapicam out and see if that helps.. -Søren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: What's happened to CDIOCREADAUDIO friends?

2003-09-20 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vladimir Kushnir wrote: Together with sys/cdio.h, where both ioc_read_audio and CDIOCREADAUDIO are declared I'll get rid of those... Again, a pity. What benefits do we gain here? Speed? CDDA extraction never required all that much of it, and to be honest the difference

Re: SATA drive lock-up

2003-09-20 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Derek Ragona wrote: I have a single SATA drive on an Adaptec 1210SA card. The drive will give a write error warning a few times, then will repeatedly give: ad4: timeout sending command=ca The only recovery is the reset switch, reboot single-user fsck, and then come back up in

Re: SATA drive lock-up

2003-09-20 Thread Putinas
Since Adapted 1210SA is based on Sil3112A controller I still also have same problem what I reported few weeks before with my onboard sil3112a controller. tested tonight with fresh kernel - Original Message - From: Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread David R. Colyer
Is atapicam a kernel config option? I can't seem to find it, and now since a cvsup up on the 17h, my plextor scsi cdrw locks my system and then reboots immediately after a burning program, (i've tried several) initializes the drive. It worked several weeks ago just fine. Any suggestions

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:14:07AM +0200, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Well, for weeks now I couldn't compile (almost) any port. It seems that ports aren't tested against -current. Is that true? No. Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are

Re: SATA drive lock-up

2003-09-20 Thread Derek Ragona
This was using the 9/18 snapshot, I tried to cvsup it to the most current, but the drive errors prevent the update. I just reloaded with the 9/19 snapshot, and will report if the error still exists. As for the hardware, it is all brand new hardware, and the system dual boots, the other OS has

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Matt
Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Oh I see. Thats a reason. If I only knew about that freeze before my pkg_delete -a but that's just my problem Thanks, -Harry I unfortunatly did the same thing. I wanted to upgrade to gnome 2.4 and seeing as this box really doesn't have any ports installed other

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Dan Naumov
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 12:32, David R. Colyer wrote: Is atapicam a kernel config option? [14:11]-[jago]-[~]: cat /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JAGO | grep atapicam #device atapicam# BROKEN in -CURRENT !!! Hope this helps. Sincerely, Dan Naumov

Sound card troubles

2003-09-20 Thread Bruce Mackay
Hey all, I get the following hang up when I try booting up, here's the problem area... pcm0: Intel ICH3 (82801CA) at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: unable to map IO port space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 I'm running a CVSUP -current from Thu Sep 18 12:34:00 EDT

if_sk build fails

2003-09-20 Thread Pawel Worach
Hi! Last if_sk update broke buildkernel === sk rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include /usr/src/sys/modules/sk/../../pci/if_sk.c /usr/src/sys/pci/if_sk.c:129:26: pci/yukonreg.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed missed to

Re: Bus error

2003-09-20 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Philipp Westphal wrote: Hi today, cvsup'ed my source and build world ... and now get an so called Bus error while i want to su, anyone know about it (or fixed it) 1) Adjust your system clock so that it's set to something reasonable. 2) What CFLAGS do you have in

ubt0, Bluetooth and kernel memory leaking

2003-09-20 Thread Gary Palmer
Hi, It seems when using rfcomm_pppd (at least) as a Bluetooth - LAN gateway there is a fairly large memory leak which eventually crashes the box running the ppp server. To track down where, I recorded the output of kern.malloc every minute until the box crashed. At the start of the debugging

Re: ubt0, Bluetooth and kernel memory leaking

2003-09-20 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Gary, It seems when using rfcomm_pppd (at least) as a Bluetooth - LAN gateway there is a fairly large memory leak which eventually crashes the box running the ppp server. To track down where, I recorded the output of kern.malloc every minute until the box crashed. At the start of

Re: nvidia-driver still fails on -CURRENT

2003-09-20 Thread Julian St.
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:56:43 +0200 Julian St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, some people reported strange behavior of nvidia-driver: after starting X the screen flickers shortly and then displays gibberish in text-mode. The system is still responsive, as one can login via serial console.

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: On a kernel built just a few hours ago, it hangs on boot right after: acd0: CDROM CD-532E-B at ata0-master PIO4 Get atapicam out and see if that helps.. No, using latest sources, with or without atapicam, does

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: On a kernel built just a few hours ago, it hangs on boot right after: acd0: CDROM CD-532E-B at ata0-master PIO4 Get atapicam out and see if that helps.. No, using latest sources, with or without atapicam, does

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Lars Eggert
Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: On a kernel built just a few hours ago, it hangs on boot right after: acd0: CDROM CD-532E-B at ata0-master PIO4 Get atapicam out and see if that helps.. No, using latest sources, with or without

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Lars Eggert wrote: Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Daniel Eischen wrote: On a kernel built just a few hours ago, it hangs on boot right after: acd0: CDROM CD-532E-B at ata0-master PIO4 Get atapicam out and see if that

Re: ubt0, Bluetooth and kernel memory leaking

2003-09-20 Thread Gary Palmer
Maksim Yevmenkin wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i just quickly checked the CVS. according to your -current date you should have this fix. can you double check? perhaps there is another bug somewhere. i will take close look at ng_ubt(4) today once again.

Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 2003-09-20, Daniel Eischen écrivait : No, using latest sources, with or without atapicam, does not solve the problem. It still hangs. Please try the patch below, it should at least work around the problem. http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ata_hang.091903 Interesting, the last 2

Re: SATA drive lock-up

2003-09-20 Thread Derek Ragona
The 9/19 snapshot has the same issues. I will try to cvsup it and build a new kernel, if I can. -Derek At 05:36 AM 9/20/2003 -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: This was using the 9/18 snapshot, I tried to cvsup it to the most current, but the drive errors prevent the update. I just reloaded

Re: ATAng no good for me

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 2003-09-20, David R. Colyer écrivait : Is atapicam a kernel config option? It is a device (cf. man atapicam): you can enable it with device atapicam in your kernel config file. I can't seem to find it, and now since a cvsup up on the 17h, my plextor scsi cdrw locks my system and then

Re: ATAng still problematic

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 2003-09-19, Dan Naumov écrivait : Disabling atapicam in the kernel or detaching the drive from the system works around the problem. Please try the patch I posted a few moments ago under ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt. Thomas. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SATA drive lock-up

2003-09-20 Thread Derek Ragona
The system died in buildworld, this time it fell into the debugger. spec_getpages(ad4s1d) I/O read failure (error=5) -Derek At 02:53 PM 9/20/2003 -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: The 9/19 snapshot has the same issues. I will try to cvsup it and build a new kernel, if I can. -Derek

Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt

2003-09-20 Thread Shin-ichi Yoshimoto
Subject: Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt, On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:53:11 +0200, Thomas Quinot wrote: Please try the patch below, it should at least work around the problem. I tried your patch. acd0: WARNING - REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing

Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Murdoch
I have a strange problem with my Dell Inspiron Laptop. The network card will stop responding to all network traffic. This happens very regulally, though without any obvious pattern. Sometimes it only appears as slight packet lose though normally the network connection goes completly. But then

Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Quinot
Le 2003-09-20, Shin-ichi Yoshimoto écrivait : acd0: WARNING - REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt This message disappeared, but It still hang Can you get a backtrace at that point? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Murdoch
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:10, Cameron Murdoch wrote: When the connection gets dropped doing an ifconfig down/up on the interface does ? This was supposed to say that ifconfig down/up does not help, only removing/inserting the network cable. Also, sorry about the wrong email address in the

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Derek Ragona
try to get a diagnostic program from dell or the card maker. If the diagnostics are fine, it may be power management, you will need to check and reset to off any power management that effects the NIC. -Derek At 11:18 PM 9/20/2003 +0100, you wrote: I have a strange problem with my Dell

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Scott Likens
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 15:10, Cameron Murdoch wrote: I have a strange problem with my Dell Inspiron Laptop. The network card will stop responding to all network traffic. This happens very regulally, though without any obvious pattern. Sometimes it only appears as slight packet lose though

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are Maybe I missed the reason why FreeBSD needs to be unique wrt threading programs and not have -pthread... Warner

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Scott Likens
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 15:10, Cameron Murdoch wrote: I have a strange problem with my Dell Inspiron Laptop. The network card will stop responding to all network traffic. This happens very regulally, though without any obvious pattern. Sometimes it only appears as slight packet lose though

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : try to get a diagnostic program from dell or the card maker. If the : diagnostics are fine, it may be power management, you will need to check : and reset to off any power management that effects the NIC. These

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Murdoch
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:50, Scott Likens wrote: *snip* First, do you use DHCP? No, not on this laptop. What are you doing exactly when it looses 'net or 'ip? Nothing specific that I can see. Sometimes nothing, sometimes an nfs installworld, which was a bit dangerous seeing as the connection

Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt

2003-09-20 Thread Shin-ichi Yoshimoto
Subject: Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt, On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:23:36 +0200, Thomas Quinot wrote: Can you get a backtrace at that point? I could not get a backtrace because infinite loop occured like this: [snip] ata0-master: pio=0x0c wdma=0x22 udma=0x46

Re: ATAng no good for me/REQUEST_SENSE recovered from missing interrupt

2003-09-20 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Thomas Quinot wrote: Le 2003-09-20, Daniel Eischen écrivait : No, using latest sources, with or without atapicam, does not solve the problem. It still hangs. Please try the patch below, it should at least work around the problem.

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread Cameron Murdoch
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 00:16, Scott Likens wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:04, Cameron Murdoch wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 23:50, Scott Likens wrote: First, do you use DHCP? No, not on this laptop. What are you doing exactly when it looses 'net or 'ip? Nothing specific that I

Getting -pthread support back into local source tree

2003-09-20 Thread Dan Naumov
Hello Seeing as -pthread support has been removed from -CURRENT breaking _LOTS_ of ports, is it possible to get it back into a local source tree ? If so, how ? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: Getting -pthread support back into local source tree

2003-09-20 Thread Scot W. Hetzel
From: Dan Naumov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seeing as -pthread support has been removed from -CURRENT breaking _LOTS_ of ports, is it possible to get it back into a local source tree ? If so, how ? Thanks in advance. All you need to do is add: CONFIGURE_ENV+=PTHREAD_LIBS=${PTHREAD_LIBS} \

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are Maybe I missed the reason why FreeBSD needs to be unique wrt threading programs and

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Doug Barton
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are Maybe I missed the reason why

Re: Getting -pthread support back into local source tree

2003-09-20 Thread Scot W. Hetzel
From: Scot W. Hetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Naumov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seeing as -pthread support has been removed from -CURRENT breaking _LOTS_ of ports, is it possible to get it back into a local source tree ? If so, how ? Thanks in advance. All you need to do is add:

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'd really like to see this change backed out, at minimum until the : ports freeze is over. Me too. I'd like to see a discussion of this in arch@ as well. I know that people have a low bikeshed tolerance these

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Dan Naumov
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 04:09, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'd really like to see this change backed out, at minimum until the : ports freeze is over. My thoughts exactly. Sincerely, Dan Naumov --

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread John Birrell
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:05:33PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: Why does -pthread necessarily force selection of one specific threading library? All it means is that it is that the program uses posix threads, at least traditionally. How FreeBSD causes that to happen is an interesting

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Birrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:05:33PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Why does -pthread necessarily force selection of one specific : threading library? All it means is that it is that the program uses : posix

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread John Birrell
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:06:25PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: But it was completely removed. That sounds like the consensus wasn't followed. Why was it then removed? It got discussed a bit more after the removal. That was the time when the GCC people got involved. The discussions where on

Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of them are Maybe I

Re: Fixing -pthreads

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : 1) Put back -pthread in -current so all the ports don't fail I've been thinking about just doing that, but was holding off to make sure people had a chance to do this in the absense of dragging out a big stick. :

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Birrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:06:25PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : But it was completely removed. That sounds like the consensus wasn't : followed. Why was it then removed? : : It got discussed a bit more after

Re: ports and -current (really 4.9 stability)

2003-09-20 Thread Frank Mayhar
M. Warner Losh wrote: FWIW, I'm running today's RELENG_4 w/o PAE. I'll see if there are big issues. FYI, I've been running 4.9-prerelease since last week, all without PAE. Booted it on all my boxen (including a web server and a database server) as well as doing hardware reconfigurations and

Re: really 4.9 stability

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Mayhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Everything has been rock-solid, no problems at all. Were it not for : PAE, I would say to go ahead and release it. That's good to hear. The re@ folks at devsummit had said that even w/o PAE enabled, bad things

Re: Network problems

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cameron Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : As Warner said in another email, this card normally works flawlessly. I : have many pci versions of it in other machines running current which do : not have this problem, so it could be hardware, but it seems a

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread John Birrell
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:24:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: 3) You, John Birrell, and whoever else is interested in fixing these ports can work on them at your own pace without disrupting life for the rest of the users. Once they're all fixed, we can turn the error back on or make it a NOP

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:03:40PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:24:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: 3) You, John Birrell, and whoever else is interested in fixing these ports can work on them at your own pace without disrupting life for the rest of the users. Once

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 00:22, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:03:40PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:24:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: 3) You, John Birrell, and whoever else is interested in fixing these ports can work on them at your own pace

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Not only the

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Doug Barton wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke countless ports (some of

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, John Birrell wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:05:33PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: Why does -pthread necessarily force selection of one specific threading library? All it means is that it is that the program uses posix threads, at least traditionally. How FreeBSD

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'd like to see some barking up the other tree. Why should fixes : to unbreak ports be held up by the freeze? Because the ports folks do not want random changes going into the tree right now given that they have

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Birrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:05:33PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Why does -pthread necessarily force selection of one specific : threading library? All it means

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Not only the -pthread removement broke

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Birrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:06:25PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : But it was completely removed. That sounds like the consensus wasn't : followed. Why was it then

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread John Birrell
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:07:15AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: But you seem to thing -pthread == NOOP unbreaks ports ;-) Warner might, but Kris doesn't. Kris is asking for the -pthread option to be restored to let -current users breath easy while the task of updating the ports goes on. Then

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'd like to see some barking up the other tree. Why should fixes : to unbreak ports be held up by the freeze? Because the ports folks do not want random changes

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:03:40PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:24:07PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: 3) You, John Birrell, and whoever else is interested in fixing these ports can work on them at your own pace without

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:04:49AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harald Schmalzbauer

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-20 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:29 AM -0400 2003/09/21, Daniel Eischen wrote: Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? I could do up an ash grey t-shirt with slightly modified graphics. What would a no -pthread symbol look like? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:46:30AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: This is the longest ports freeze that I can remember I can only suppose that you haven't been paying attention to other release cycles, because this one is shorter than usual. I wasn't expecting it to last long. Not to change

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:04:49AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 08:43:18PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 03:15:25PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:07:15AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: But you seem to thing -pthread == NOOP unbreaks ports ;-) Warner might, but Kris doesn't. Kris is asking for the -pthread option to be restored to let -current users

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: At 1:29 AM -0400 2003/09/21, Daniel Eischen wrote: Can you add a no -pthread symbol to it? I could do up an ash grey t-shirt with slightly modified graphics. What would a no -pthread symbol look like? I'd imagine a thread would

StarOffice 6 under CURRENT

2003-09-20 Thread Remington
FreeBSD bart 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #2: Sat Sep 20 20:34:05 PDT 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BART i386 I am having problems running staroffice under current. My question is is anyone else eperiencing this problem? The initial ports install runs fine but when running

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:44:35AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: I don't think committing fixes for -current breakages should cause problems for 4.9-RELEASE (especially with the caveat that they be compile tested on -stable). Out of curiosity, what's the reason the tag can't be laid now? In

Re: ports and -current

2003-09-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Birrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:07:15AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: : But you seem to thing -pthread == NOOP unbreaks ports ;-) : : Warner might It appreas to unbreak one port: icecast. It was the first port I found