kldload(2) and debug kernels

2003-11-16 Thread vze2ztys
It looks like the kldload system call takes the name of the module you give it, like ums, and just tacks on .ko and searches in whatever the default paths are for kernel modules until it finds ums.ko. Peachy. But what about if you built your kernel and modules with debugging symbols added in?

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 12:21 AM -0500 11/16/03, Jeff Roberson wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Or maybe the real problem is that we claim that there will be no API/ABI changes after X.0-RELEASE, and we've really missed that mark with 5.0-RELEASE, for a variety of reasons. If we're going to

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:47:45PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: Are you sure your kernel, /usr/include/sys, and netstat are all up-to-date? I know mine are. What's odd in my case is that FreeBSD - Windows works but generates many collisions (11 MB file xfer results in roughly 8000 collisions) but

Re: /etc/rc.d/ipsec starts not in time

2003-11-16 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:21:34 -0800 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is not sufficient. There is setkey(8) in /usr/sbin. It means that we cannot protect NFS exported /usr by IPsec. If there is no objection, I wish to move setkey(8) into /sbin like NetBSD did. tlambert2 This

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2003-11-16 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-11-16 07:25:54 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2003-11-16 07:25:54 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-11-16 07:25:54 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q

Re: /etc/rc.d/ipsec starts not in time

2003-11-16 Thread Kostyuk Oleg
Hi It is not sufficient. There is setkey(8) in /usr/sbin. It means that we cannot protect NFS exported /usr by IPsec. If there is no objection, I wish to move setkey(8) into /sbin like NetBSD did. tlambert2 This type of order inversion is common. tlambert2 Can we simply delay exportation until

Re: cardbus no longer working with -CURRENT and ACPI

2003-11-16 Thread Dylan Wylie
On 15 Nov 2003 at 17:35, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dylan Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : List, : : Running -CURRENT now gives the following problem on a Compaq Pressario 1600- : XL144 laptop: : : [...] : cbb0: TI1211 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device

Re: Unattended reboot was Re: signal 12's everywhere on Current with update this morning.

2003-11-16 Thread Edwin Culp
--- Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: masta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found that if I put /rescue in my PATH before all the normal stuff, things tend to work (like ls). For me I got caught doing the: make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=FOO make installkernel

Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-16 Thread Jens Rehsack
Hi, after I updated my machine yesterday to the -CURRENT src/ and ports/ of yesterday (2003-11-15 10:30 GMT), build kernel and world as described in Kirks HEADSUP mail and rebuild all ports, my machine always crashes when I start X. My problem is, that I cannot determine the reason for the

syncer panic

2003-11-16 Thread Tim Bishop
Hi all, I'm running 5.1-RELEASE-p10 (i386) and I've been experiencing kernel panics for a while now. I'm hoping someone will be able to shed a bit of light on the problem. Unfortunately all the info I have right now is: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address

Re: syncer panic

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:02:57PM +, Tim Bishop wrote: If it's of significance I'm running vinum to mirror my /, /usr, and swap partitions. There have been quite a few vinum PRs coming in lately, so this is a likely candidate. A gdb backtrace is needed to go much further though. Kris

Re: syncer panic

2003-11-16 Thread Tim Bishop
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 05:12:26AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:02:57PM +, Tim Bishop wrote: If it's of significance I'm running vinum to mirror my /, /usr, and swap partitions. There have been quite a few vinum PRs coming in lately, so this is a likely

[current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2003-11-16 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-11-16 12:20:48 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2003-11-16 12:20:48 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-11-16 12:20:48 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Robert M . Zigweid
On Nov 16, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I just committed a patch to change /bin and /sbin from statically to dynamically linked. If you don't like the idea of using a dynamically linked /bin and /sbin, now is the time to define NO_DYNAMICROOT in your make.conf. The reasons for doing so

Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-16 Thread Janet Sullivan
Jens Rehsack wrote: mail and rebuild all ports, my machine always crashes when I start X. My problem is, that I cannot determine the reason for the crashes, so I cannot think about a workaround. Any hints are very welcome :-) I've had the exact same symptoms as you with a radeon 9200 on a nforce2

Re[2]: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Max Laier
I'll admit to being mostly a lurker here, but isn't the point of /sbin to be statically linked. That's what the 's' stands for? Second question. This seems to imply that /sbin and /bin both have to have the same behavior? I have no problem with /bin being dynamically linked, but what if

Re: /etc/rc.d/ipsec starts not in time

2003-11-16 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:10:12 +0200 Kostyuk Oleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is not sufficient. There is setkey(8) in /usr/sbin. It means that we cannot protect NFS exported /usr by IPsec. If there is no objection, I wish to move setkey(8) into /sbin like NetBSD did. tlambert2 This

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Richard Coleman
Robert M.Zigweid wrote: I'll admit to being mostly a lurker here, but isn't the point of /sbin to be statically linked. That's what the 's' stands for? Second question. This seems to imply that /sbin and /bin both have to have the same behavior? I have no problem with /bin being dynamically

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: Robert M.Zigweid wrote: I'll admit to being mostly a lurker here, but isn't the point of /sbin to be statically linked. That's what the 's' stands for? Second question. This seems to imply that /sbin and /bin both have to have the same

hard lock-up writing to tape

2003-11-16 Thread Mike Durian
I'm using -current cvsup'd as of Nov 15, 2003. When I try to do a dump or run the btape (fill command) program from bacula, my machine will lock up hard. Doesn't respond to ping. No access to kernel debugger. Num lock doesn't come on. I can perform a dump or run the btape fill program when in

Re: cbb cardbus activation failed

2003-11-16 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 22:32, Philippe Charnier wrote: Hello, I have a Compaq armada 7800 with a noname pccard ethernet adapter which used to be detected as: rl0: RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX port 0x1100-0x11ff mem 0x8800-0x880001ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 rl0: Ethernet

[current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha

2003-11-16 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-11-16 17:00:01 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2003-11-16 17:00:01 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-11-16 17:00:01 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q

Non-sleepable locks held. 12 hours old source

2003-11-16 Thread Francis Ridder
Ok, at the tail end of the dmesg file I am getting complaints starting at boot time of non-sleepable locks held. My source is current as of 12 hours ago. Pasted here is one of the errors: checking stopevent 2 with the following non-sleepable locks held: exclusive sleep mutex sigacts r = 0

buildworld fails

2003-11-16 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi! I have a problem with today's sources. At my first try make buildworld and make kernel worked all-right and the new kernel could be booted, so I didn't check closely and made installworld. This failed *somewhere* , and now I am left with a defect system: no internet connection, no XFree86

Re: Non-sleepable locks held. 12 hours old source

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:50:47PM -0600, Francis Ridder wrote: Ok, at the tail end of the dmesg file I am getting complaints starting at boot time of non-sleepable locks held. My source is current as of 12 hours ago. Pasted here is one of the errors: checking stopevent 2 with the following

Re: kernel panic with todays source

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Sunday 16 November 2003 05:32, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Hi, I saw that something has changed on ULE and wanted to give it a try but with sources from ~ So 16 Nov 2003 04:00 UTC I get the following kernel panic just before disk/geom and after Timecounter TSC frequency 1095341787 Hz

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-16 Thread Nate Lawson
The panic you see is a result of the new acpi_cpu driver, not ULE. In any case, it appears that acpi_cpu_idle is being called and trying to read one of the processor control registers before they are present. Please send me privately the output of: acpidump -t -d harald-MachineType.asl As a

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/acpica acpi_cpu.c src/share/man/man4 acpi.4 src/sys/conf files src/sys/modules/acpi Makefile

2003-11-16 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Please test this to be sure that it boots ok on your machine, especially SMP boxes. Throttling should still work ok also. Seems to work here: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/85 C3/185 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 173839/0 0/0

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2003-11-16 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-11-16 19:25:02 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2003-11-16 19:25:02 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-11-16 19:25:02 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q

Re: upgraded to CURRENT = system is dead

2003-11-16 Thread Michael Collette
I just ran into this very same thing today on a brand new installation. Upon reboot I can't even get to a shell. Was rather hoping someone had some more information about this. Running the installation on an IBM xSeries 305 with a P4. Going to try the installation fresh with a cvsup back to

Re: upgraded to CURRENT = system is dead

2003-11-16 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Michael Collette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just ran into this very same thing today on a brand new installation. Upon reboot I can't even get to a shell. Was rather hoping someone had some more information about this. Running the installation on an IBM xSeries 305 with a P4. Going

Re: upgraded to CURRENT = system is dead

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony Ginepro
I got trapped in the mess too but finally repaired it with a livecd. Let's hope the path for 5.2 RELEASE will be smoother for the less adventurous of us. I just ran into this very same thing today on a brand new installation. Upon reboot I can't even get to a shell. Was rather hoping someone

make options target in bsd.port.mk

2003-11-16 Thread Matt Douhan
Hi on the recent discussion on how to find out the variour WITH* options in a ports Makefile it sounds like a good idea, I think all of us have been tired of checking inside the actual Makefiles to find out what options are available. I have the following in my bsd.port.mk .if

Re: make options target in bsd.port.mk

2003-11-16 Thread Matt Douhan
On Sunday 16 November 2003 23.10, Matt Douhan wrote: Hi sorry misfiled this to current@ should have gone to ports@ rgds Matt -- Matt Douhan www.fruitsalad.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ping elvis elvis is alive pgp0.pgp Description: signature

CF cards / ATAng / interrupt code still broken

2003-11-16 Thread Marco Wertejuk
Hello, as reproducable seen on my IBM Thinkpad, current as of some days ago has problems to boot with my 128MB noname CF card inserted. The panic output is very similar the problem Alex Dupre reported in mid of september, but Sorens patch which should be tried to get this stuff fixed but the

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 2003.11.16 09:46:47 -0500, Robert M.Zigweid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I just committed a patch to change /bin and /sbin from statically to dynamically linked. If you don't like the idea of using a dynamically linked /bin and /sbin,

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:50:24PM -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: On 2003.11.16 09:46:47 -0500, Robert M.Zigweid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I just committed a patch to change /bin and /sbin from statically to dynamically linked. If you

Unable to dump on ccd partitions?

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
# dumpon /dev/ccd0b dumpon: ioctl(DIOCSKERNELDUMP): Invalid argument Why doesn't this work? Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread masta
Hi Darren Pilgrim wrote: What was done to programs like /bin/sh, /sbin/init and /sbin/fsck to make them work without access to /usr/lib? All the libs required for /bin or /sbin have moved to /lib. Like this: cd /bin file sh sh: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, SPARC V9, version 1 (FreeBSD), for

Re: Unable to dump on ccd partitions?

2003-11-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Kennaway writes: # dumpon /dev/ccd0b dumpon: ioctl(DIOCSKERNELDUMP): Invalid argument Why doesn't this work? Because it would require the entire GEOM I/O engine to participate in dumping. As far as I know you never could dump on CCD. -- Poul-Henning Kamp

Re: Unable to dump on ccd partitions?

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:19:24AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Kennaway writes: # dumpon /dev/ccd0b dumpon: ioctl(DIOCSKERNELDUMP): Invalid argument Why doesn't this work? Because it would require the entire GEOM I/O engine to participate in

Re: buildworld fails

2003-11-16 Thread Aron Håkanson
Sön 2003-11-16 klockan 21.12 skrev Peter Ulrich Kruppa: Hi! I have a problem with today's sources. At my first try make buildworld and make kernel worked all-right and the new kernel could be booted, so I didn't check closely and made installworld. This failed *somewhere* , and now I am

Re: buildworld fails

2003-11-16 Thread Marcus Reid
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 01:04:33AM +0100, Aron H?kanson wrote: S?n 2003-11-16 klockan 21.12 skrev Peter Ulrich Kruppa: Hi! I have a problem with today's sources. At my first try make buildworld and make kernel worked all-right and the new kernel could be booted, so I didn't check

DWL-G520 (Atheros 5212) x FreeBSD

2003-11-16 Thread Neilson Henriques
Hi ! After read the man page of ath(4) driver I decided to buy a DWL-G520 but it is insisting to not joy with me. :-( I tried to replace the board, replace the machine, reinstall the FreeBSD and cvsup the today code, get and install a snapshot, every try without success.

[current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2003-11-16 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-11-17 00:15:34 - tinderbox 2.2 running on cueball.rtp.FreeBSD.org TB --- 2003-11-17 00:15:34 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-11-17 00:15:34 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q

Re: CF cards / ATAng / interrupt code still broken

2003-11-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
I've also had problems with CF cards and ATAng :-( Warner ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Brent Jones
On Nov 16, 2003, at 9:22 AM, Richard Coleman wrote: Robert M.Zigweid wrote: I'll admit to being mostly a lurker here, but isn't the point of /sbin to be statically linked. That's what the 's' stands for? Second question. This seems to imply that /sbin and /bin both have to have the same

Re: General debug/kernel question

2003-11-16 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: I always thought that building a kernel with debug symbols would increase the kernel size dramatically. But if I understand things right the additioal symbols (code snippets?) are not in the kernel but in a different file which makes the kernel

Alpha SMP panic

2003-11-16 Thread David O'Brien
# cd /usr/src ; cvs -qR up -PdA ... U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_hci_raw.h U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_l2cap.h U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_rfcomm.h panic: Assertion td-td_turnstile != NULL failed at ../../../kern/subr_turnstile.c:427 cpuid = 1;

Re: General debug/kernel question

2003-11-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:30:48PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: it, or because it causes panics to halt as opposed to reboot. The DDB_UNATTENDED option can help with that though. Another thing to keep in This is the first I've seen this option (admittedly infrequent

Re: Alpha SMP panic

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:39:17PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: # cd /usr/src ; cvs -qR up -PdA ... U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_hci_raw.h U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_l2cap.h U sys/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ng_btsocket_rfcomm.h panic: Assertion

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:44:35PM -0800, Jos Backus wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:47:45PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: Are you sure your kernel, /usr/include/sys, and netstat are all up-to-date? I know mine are. What's odd in my case is that FreeBSD - Windows works but generates many

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Kimura Fuyuki
At Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:10:28 -0800, Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just committed a patch to change /bin and /sbin from statically to dynamically linked. If you don't like the idea of using a dynamically linked /bin and /sbin, now is the time to define NO_DYNAMICROOT in your

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/acpica acpi_cpu.c src/share/man/man4 acpi.4 src/sys/conf files src/sys/modules/acpi Makefile

2003-11-16 Thread Nate Lawson
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Lukas Ertl wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Please test this to be sure that it boots ok on your machine, especially SMP boxes. Throttling should still work ok also. Seems to work here: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/85 C3/185

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Sunday 16 November 2003 21:11, Nate Lawson wrote: The panic you see is a result of the new acpi_cpu driver, not ULE. In any case, it appears that acpi_cpu_idle is being called and trying to read one of the processor control registers before they are present. Please send me privately the

mouse not working as of latest kernel

2003-11-16 Thread David Hill
Hello - My mouse stopped working with the latest kernel compile. The mouse was working with my November 11 2003 kernel though. it is an IBM optical mouse using USB. my dmesg is attached. - David Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,

init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Salve, since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot now. Usually I do installworld in singleuser mode. Then I see the following lines on dmesg which I don't know how to hanlde: 1) warning: KLD

vinum error: statfs related?

2003-11-16 Thread Daryl Chance
I am currently not able to load my vinum array (haven't tried to revert back to pre-statfs source) after I built a new kernel and world. I upgraded the recommended way (installkernel, reboot, single user mode, installworld, etc) and when my box boots I get vinum loaded, no drives found. When I

Re: General debug/kernel question

2003-11-16 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031116 20:43]: Content-Description: signed data Salve, I always thought that building a kernel with debug symbols would increase the kernel size dramatically. But if I understand things right the additioal symbols (code snippets?) are not in the

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:24:00PM -0700, Brent Jones wrote: On Nov 16, 2003, at 9:22 AM, Richard Coleman wrote: Robert M.Zigweid wrote: I'll admit to being mostly a lurker here, but isn't the point of /sbin to be statically linked. That's what the 's' stands for? Second question. This

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Bill Vermillion
-- Message: 10 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:50:24 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked On 2003.11.16 09:46:47 -0500, Robert M.Zigweid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2003, at 12:10

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Salve, since about one day kill 1 and init 1 don't work anymore! Now I don't know how to change to single user mode from normal boot

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:37:47PM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote: 1) Much smaller /bin and /sbin. On i386, /bin and /sbin are 33 MB static. Dynamically linked, they are only 4 MB. I don't think saving that little space on the / partition is as important as having everthing in

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Bill Vermillion wrote: I don't think saving that little space on the / partition is as important as having everthing in sbin being able to stand alone no matter what is corrupted. man 8 rescue Bruce. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Richard Coleman
Bill Vermillion wrote: 1) Much smaller /bin and /sbin. On i386, /bin and /sbin are 33 MB static. Dynamically linked, they are only 4 MB. I don't think saving that little space on the / partition is as important as having everthing in sbin being able to stand alone no matter what is

Re: Unable to dump on ccd partitions?

2003-11-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 16), Kris Kennaway said: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:19:24AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Kennaway writes: # dumpon /dev/ccd0b dumpon: ioctl(DIOCSKERNELDUMP): Invalid argument Why doesn't this work? Because it would

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Next I'd like to report is

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:37:47PM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote: One thing I always liked of the FBSD approach as opposed to others is to make ever tool that might possible be needed in a system recovery static so if it was there it would work. How about you take a look at what is actually

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:08, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote:

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:08, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: *SNIP* I can assure you that the numerical simulations I run, along with the make worlds, and compilations of gcc's tree-ssa branch stress the system. I re-install over

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite wm/desktop. But you won't be able to play two mid to high-quality

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Anthony Schneider
This isn't *totally* the case. :) My problem is that in upgrading from 5.1-RELEASE to -CURRENT today, installworld fails at installing test with (hand copied): ---8---8--- === bin/test install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 test /bin install -o root -g wheel -m 444 test.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ELF

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 12:51:49AM -0500, Anthony Schneider wrote: This isn't *totally* the case. :) My problem is that in upgrading from 5.1-RELEASE to -CURRENT today, installworld fails at installing test with (hand copied): Except we weren't talking about buildworld - sorry to hear you're

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-16 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Monday 17 November 2003 06:42, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:41:04AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Give setiathome a try! You'll be astonished. And I'm sure the difference I _feel_ isn't dependend on kde. If you don't like kde replace it with our favourite