lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 12/29/11 11:48, schrieb Rainer Hurling: On 28.12.2011 19:31 (UTC+1), Kostik Belousov wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 07:21:00PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/28/11 19:10, schrieb Ed Schouten: * Rainer Hurlingrhur...@gwdg.de, 20111228 17:31: error: macro _Static_assert passed 3 arguments,

Re: starting the annual discussion regarding top(1)'s CPU usage statistics

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:40:33 pm Alexander Best wrote: ok...so we all know that top(1) cannot compute the exact CPU usage for all processes, since some processes get spawned and exit so fast that they don't fall into the calculation range. i think nobody is getting angry when top(1) is

Re: lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread Rainer Hurling
On 29.12.2011 13:59 (UTC+1), O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 13:34, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: On 29.12.11 14:19, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 12:59, schrieb Kostik Belousov: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: [...] /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Renato Botelho
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Peter J. Cherny pet...@luddite.com.au wrote: Rather than hijack the previous thread, it's probably time to make a few comments on the current and future installation and use of ZFS FreeBSD. I've used both Solaris and FreeBSD since nearly day one for both OSs,

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote: A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS, etc.) rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx' string would be one improvement. There are PRs for that and several other common suggestions:

Re: grep

2011-12-29 Thread Randy Bush
FreeBSD ran.psg.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #4: Sat Dec 24 12:33:51 UTC 2011 r...@ran.psg.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAN amd64 % echo foo | grep foo % What about 'grep -V'? Or 'which grep'? turns out that a zero length grep had been installed updated to new sources, rebuilt,

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/29/11 04:34, Mark Blackman wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is by using

Re: lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 29.12.11 14:19, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 12:59, schrieb Kostik Belousov: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: [...] /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC lapi.o:

svn2cvs fixed again

2011-12-29 Thread Simon L. B. Nielsen
Hey, svn2cvs has been fixed and is catching up now. Mirrors should be fully up to date within a couple of hours (depending on their sync schedule). -- Simon L. B. Nielsen ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Peter J. Cherny
Rather than hijack the previous thread, it's probably time to make a few comments on the current and future installation and use of ZFS FreeBSD. I've used both Solaris and FreeBSD since nearly day one for both OSs, so have a deal of familiarity in their use. I believe removal of sysinstall

Re: 9.0-RC1 panic in tcp_input: negative winow.

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:01:33 am Коньков Евгений wrote: Здравствуйте, John. Вы писали 20 декабря 2011 г., 16:52:44: JB On Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:21:27 pm Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:00:23AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: An update. I've sent Pawel

Re: scheduler panic

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:48:32 am Larry Rosenman wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Larry Rosenman wrote: On 12/23/2011 8:54 AM, John Baldwin wrote: The sloppiest fix might be to do this: Index: sched_ule.c === - ---

Re: grep

2011-12-29 Thread Gábor Kövesdán
On 2011.12.28. 23:35, Randy Bush wrote: FreeBSD ran.psg.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #4: Sat Dec 24 12:33:51 UTC 2011 r...@ran.psg.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAN amd64 % echo foo | grep foo % What about 'grep -V'? Or 'which grep'? Gabor

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 29. Dec 2011, at 12:34 , Mark Blackman wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is

Re: CD Access in 9.x and -CURRENT

2011-12-29 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Claude Buisson clbuis...@orange.fr wrote: On 12/29/2011 07:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Joseph S. Atkinsonj...@freebsd.org  wrote: I am the maintainer of VLC, I have an outstanding PR (ports/162190) on the issue of cdda://

[Resolved] GCC 4.6 compilation problems w.r.t. static_assert

2011-12-29 Thread Ed Schouten
* Ed Schouten e...@80386.nl, 20111228 19:10: Hmmm... This seems to apply to my changes. I will look into this tomorrow. Thanks for the report! Just to clarify, as mentioned earlier in this thread, the linking problems problems are not related by my C11 patches, as they are only part of HEAD. It

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:37:25 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote: On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote: On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: On the topic of Doug's actual

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote: On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote: On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I

segfault from php/freebsd/dtrace

2011-12-29 Thread Oleg Ginzburg
Hi maillist, I try to use dtrace + php/dtrace on the freebsd. In certain cases ive get Segmentation fault and don't understand what of subsystem has a problem. For this purpose: 1) have PHP with DTrace probes, for example: svn co https://svn.php.net/repository/php/php-src/trunk php-trunk

Re: lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 12/29/11 13:34, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: On 29.12.11 14:19, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 12:59, schrieb Kostik Belousov: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: [...] /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when

Re: lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 12/29/11 12:59, schrieb Kostik Belousov: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 11:48, schrieb Rainer Hurling: On 28.12.2011 19:31 (UTC+1), Kostik Belousov wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 07:21:00PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/28/11 19:10, schrieb Ed

Re: CD Access in 9.x and -CURRENT

2011-12-29 Thread Claude Buisson
On 12/29/2011 07:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Joseph S. Atkinsonj...@freebsd.org wrote: I am the maintainer of VLC, I have an outstanding PR (ports/162190) on the issue of cdda:// access. I can confirm this issues, but don't know enough about driver access to fix

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote: On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote: On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: On the topic of

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 29. Dec 2011, at 07:10 , Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Oh if it was for ZFS root only.. package management is gone in 10 with that as well but there is work in progress for the new

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Blackman
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is by using Martin Matu?ka's excellent mfsboot images.

Re: [rfc] removing/conditionalising WERROR= in Makefiles

2011-12-29 Thread Ed Schouten
* Philip Paeps phi...@freebsd.org, 20111227 02:04: Wouldn't it be better to set WARNS=x rather than WERROR=? Not entirely related to the discussion, but worth mentioning: WARNS is only used by bsd.{prog,lib}.mk -- not bsd.kmod.mk. -- Ed Schouten e...@80386.nl WWW: http://80386.nl/

segfault from php/freebsd/dtrace

2011-12-29 Thread Oleg Ginzburg
Hi maillist, I try to use dtrace + php/dtrace on the freebsd. In certain cases ive get Segmentation fault and don't understand what of subsystem has a problem. For this purpose: 1) have PHP with DTrace probes, for example: svn co https://svn.php.net/repository/php/php-src/trunk php-trunk

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote: On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote: On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much closer to

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 29/12/11, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org ha scritto: ... I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally positive comments

svn2cvs gateway down (one more time..)

2011-12-29 Thread Claude Buisson
On 12/28/2011 23:43, Sean Bruno wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 12:49 -0800, Michael Butler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I noticed updates come from SVN today but haven't yet seen them in CVS. Is it busted again? Clusteradm@ can take a look at this ... I think.

Re: lang/lua: /usr/bin/ld: lapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `luaO_nilobject_' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC

2011-12-29 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:19:40PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/29/11 11:48, schrieb Rainer Hurling: On 28.12.2011 19:31 (UTC+1), Kostik Belousov wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 07:21:00PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/28/11 19:10, schrieb Ed Schouten: * Rainer Hurlingrhur...@gwdg.de,

Re: /usr/local/lib/gcc46/gcc/x86_64-portbld-freebsd9.0/4.6.3/../../../libstdc++.a: could not read symbols: Bad value

2011-12-29 Thread Rainer Hurling
On 28.12.2011 19:31 (UTC+1), Kostik Belousov wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 07:21:00PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Am 12/28/11 19:10, schrieb Ed Schouten: * Rainer Hurlingrhur...@gwdg.de, 20111228 17:31: error: macro _Static_assert passed 3 arguments, but takes just 2 In file included from

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/29/11 10:52, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote: A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS, etc.) rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx' string would be one improvement. There are PRs for that and several other

[PATCH] Remove use of bus space tag/handle's from ichwd(4)

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
This patch updates the ichwd(4) driver to use the built-in bus space tag and handle from the relevent resource objects instead of storing duplicate copies in its softc. Index: dev/ichwd/ichwd.c === --- dev/ichwd/ichwd.c (revision

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 December 2011 18:23, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: --- Gio 29/12/11, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org ha scritto: I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old hands at

Re: 9.0-RC1 panic in tcp_input: negative winow.

2011-12-29 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:12:59AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:01:33 am Коньков Евгений wrote: Здравствуйте, John. Вы писали 20 декабря 2011 г., 16:52:44: JB On Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:21:27 pm Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:55:10 pm Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/29/11 10:52, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote: A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS, etc.) rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx'

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On 29/12/2011 18:39, Renato Botelho wrote: IIRC, PCBSD installer can install a regular FreeBSD on ZFS. It can do, but you're left with a /very/ basic installation - the hostname, network interfaces etc. aren't configured, which could be a problem for some people. If I thought there would

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On 29/12/2011 16:37, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally positive comments on the user experience. Patches would

Re: 9.0-RC1 panic in tcp_input: negative winow.

2011-12-29 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:25:02 pm Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:12:59AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:01:33 am Коньков Евгений wrote: Здравствуйте, John. Вы писали 20 декабря 2011 г., 16:52:44: JB On Saturday,

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 December 2011 21:25, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: --- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto: FWIW; I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD lately and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues: -X.Org has become very difficult to

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On 29/12/2011 21:30, Chris Rees wrote: Nah, pkg_add -r works and grabs anything you need. Try it with something monstrous (like gcc...) But then you have to know the exact name of the package, which isn't always obvious. -- Bruce Cran ___

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto: FWIW; I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD lately and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues: -X.Org has become very difficult to install. Setting up hald and friends, not to mention that you have

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Chris Rees
On 29 Dec 2011 21:36, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 29/12/2011 21:30, Chris Rees wrote: Nah, pkg_add -r works and grabs anything you need. Try it with something monstrous (like gcc...) But then you have to know the exact name of the package, which isn't always obvious. If an

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:23:58AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: How am I supposed to install prebuilt packages (and the myriad of dependencies) from now on? I strongly recommend using portmaster. The manpage is very dense but to start with, use something like the following (I'm just picking one

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto: I use the nvidia driver, no idea what people with ATI cards do. I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with that, if you ever want to try again and you can't work it out get me off list ;) Getting X11 to run on

Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool

2011-12-29 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/29/11 12:51, Bruce Cran wrote: On 29/12/2011 16:37, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally positive comments on

Setting up xorg, the quick and dirty method (was Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool)

2011-12-29 Thread Garrett Cooper
(Splitting off one part of the thread to be relevant to the right group; moving x11 mailing list to BCC) On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; --- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto: I use the nvidia driver, no idea what people

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-29 Thread David Thiel
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:57:31AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: So, there's an assumption with SUJ+fsck that SU is keeping the filesystem consistent. Maybe that's a bad assumption, and I'm not trying to discredit your report. But the intention with SUJ is to eliminate the need for anything

Re: CD Access in 9.x and -CURRENT

2011-12-29 Thread Joseph S. Atkinson
On 12/29/2011 01:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Joseph S. Atkinsonj...@freebsd.org wrote: I am the maintainer of VLC, I have an outstanding PR (ports/162190) on the issue of cdda:// access. I can confirm this issues, but don't know enough about driver access to fix

Re: CD Access in 9.x and -CURRENT

2011-12-29 Thread Doug Barton
Just to clarify some things that I passed on to Joseph in haste ... On 12/28/2011 21:56, Joseph S. Atkinson wrote: Doug Barton reports that cdcontrol(1) doesn't work for him, Some of the functions work, but I can't play audio CDs with it, even as root. and mplayer and audactiy also display

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-29 Thread David Thiel
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 03:02:14PM -0800, David Thiel wrote: = Machine 1, with journal: = Script started on Thu Dec 29 11:26:29 2011 fsck / ** /dev/ada0.eli Correction - machine 1 had an unclean shutdown. Will get additional logs soon.

Re: SU+J systems do not fsck themselves

2011-12-29 Thread Scott Long
On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:02 PM, David Thiel wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:57:31AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: So, there's an assumption with SUJ+fsck that SU is keeping the filesystem consistent. Maybe that's a bad assumption, and I'm not trying to discredit your report. But the intention