Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031130 11:36]: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and

Re: Turkeys and dynamic linking

2003-11-27 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031127 17:50]: On Thursday 27 November 2003 12:31 pm, Bill Moran wrote: walt wrote: To all of you who celebrate Thanksgiving today, I wish you a happy one! And speaking of turkeys, does anyone know how Microsoft handles the performance issues

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-26 Thread Michael Edenfield
* M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031126 00:43]: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : * M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031125 12:07]: : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : boyd, rounin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : i see

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-26 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031126 06:56]: At 12:23 AM -0500 11/26/03, Michael Edenfield wrote: Just to provide some real-world numbers, here's what I got out of a buildworld: I have reformatted the numbers that Michael reported, into the following table: Static /bin/sh

Re: df: negative overflow?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Melvyn Sopacua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031126 13:23]: /dev/ad0s2e ? 989M ? 947M -36.4M ? 104% ? ?/var This is normal. Each filesystem has a chunk of reserved space for root-only, for disaster recovery and such. Your /var filesystem is full, and has begun overflowing into that reserved space by

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-26 Thread Michael Edenfield
* M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031126 14:51]: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : They were on a single CPU Athlon 500 with 320MB of RAM. 320MB is not enough RAM not to swap. However, having said that, I think everybody realizes

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Edenfield
* boyd, rounin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031125 05:16]: i see that there some doubt about whether running lots of shell scripts ever happens. what happens when you use make? lots of shells get run and they run small (one line?) scripts. Just to provide some real-world numbers, here's what I got

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Edenfield
* M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031125 12:07]: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] boyd, rounin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : i see that there some doubt about whether running lots of : shell scripts ever happens. what happens when you : use make? lots of shells get run and they run

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031124 14:11]: I doubt there is any perfect answer which will satisfy everyone, but perhaps we can recognize that and figure out some flexible middle ground. Would it be possible, through some make.conf magic, for the end-user to set extra programs to be

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-22 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Tim Kientzle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031121 18:40]: Leo Bicknell wrote: To boot a machine into single user mode you need a kernel, init, and /bin/sh (minimally). It would seem to me that alone is a good argument for those three things to be static. * Rewrite dlopen() to not require dynamic

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031116 23:21]: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:24:00PM -0700, Brent Jones wrote: This is just a case of OS evolution. /sbin used to be the place where the statically linked recovery things would be placed, in case the shared libraries got hosed. The only

Re: init and USB oddities-ULE-ATA

2003-11-17 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031116 23:42]: Content-Description: signed data On Monday 17 November 2003 05:25, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 04:39:08AM +0100, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: Content-Description: signed data Salve, since about one day kill 1 and

Re: General debug/kernel question

2003-11-16 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Harald Schmalzbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031116 20:43]: Content-Description: signed data Salve, I always thought that building a kernel with debug symbols would increase the kernel size dramatically. But if I understand things right the additioal symbols (code snippets?) are not in the

Re: Initial list of ports that fail due to -pthread

2003-09-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Will Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030924 01:50]: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:34:13AM -0400, Michael Edenfield wrote: One very important group of ports that should get looked at when this gets worked out is KDE. Apparently, Qt uses a different means of determining wether to use threading

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Ian Dowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030924 12:03]: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Eischen writes: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Scott Long wrote: PTHREAD_LIBS is a great tool for the /usr/ports mechanism, but doesn't mean anything outside of that. That just meant it makes it easier to maintain

Re: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)

2003-09-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Michael Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030924 13:21]: * Ian Dowse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030924 12:03]: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Eischen writes: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Scott Long wrote: PTHREAD_LIBS is a great tool for the /usr/ports mechanism, but doesn't mean anything outside

Re: Initial list of ports that fail due to -pthread

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030923 22:21]: Here is a partial list of the ports that need to be taught to respect PTHREAD_LIBS and PTHREAD_CFLAGS, from the latest 5.x package build (I just grepped for the -pthread is deprecated error message). None of One very important group of ports

Re: Shared object libintl.so.4 not found

2003-09-13 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030913 00:26]: From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please don't give bogus advice. The solution is to update everything that depends upon gettext, e.g. by using portupgrade. Maybe, but this bit me and the solution was to re-build gmake. The changes

Re: Quo vadis, -CURRENT? (recent changes to cc compatibility)

2003-09-10 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Alexander Leidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030910 10:53]: In 5-current we have 3 threads libraries and want to be able to install and use them in parallel. So there has to be a way to specify which one. This is why we need the ports collection to respect the PTHREAD* variables. A lot of ports

Re: Quo vadis, -CURRENT? (recent changes to cc compatibility)

2003-09-10 Thread Michael Edenfield
* David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030910 15:33]: On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 12:41:41PM -0400, Michael Edenfield wrote: gnome2 depends on gnomemedia2. gnomemedia2 depends on gstreamer-plugins. gstreamer-plugins fails because ARTSD_FLAGS in several dozen Makefiles includes -pthread

Re: re-fdisk'ing a partition - permission denied?

2003-09-09 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Ulrich Spoerlein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030909 12:33]: On Mon, 08.09.2003 at 18:10:38 -0400, Michael Edenfield wrote: e.g., if you have ad0s1a mounted as /, you cannot: * fdisk ad0 to create ad0s2 * disklabel ad0s2 to create ad0s2a * perform any data transfer with ad0 as the target

Re: re-fdisk'ing a partition - permission denied?

2003-09-08 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Jason Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030908 17:54]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You have hit one of the main issues still to be resolved in GEOM. (I don't know that phk thinks it's a problem to be resolved or a feature to be documented.) In any case, since GEOM was

Re: new MB = ACPI Errors?

2003-09-08 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Steve Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030908 20:26]: Hey. I installed a new motherboard today and now I get a lot of ACPI errors (with a kernel from today and one from a few days back). This anything to worry about? Not really, just annoying. A fair number (all that I've seen!) of motherboard

Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin Makefile src/lib Makefile src/sbinMakefile src/usr.bin Makefile src/usr.sbin Makefile

2003-08-30 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030830 09:18]: On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 03:11:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: See /etc/defaults/make.conf Only in RELENG_4, last time I checked. In 5.x, since make.conf was not a set of defaults but merely a list of available make flags, it was moved out of

no more unkillable kse threads.

2003-06-26 Thread Michael Edenfield
Just an FYI: After doing a rebuild of my kernel/world over night I can no longer reproduce the unkillable 'ksetest' program problem. I didn't apply any of the signal handling patches or anything special, so I guess something was just flukey with my setup. Thanks! --Mike pgp0.pgp

Re: Unkillable processes with libKSE

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030624 12:45]: Thought I would give libKSE a try making use of the 'libmap.conf' library translations. KDE loads fine, but when I tried to run Firebird I get a process with 3 threads, and it is completely unkillable. It also is I had the same experience just

Re: Unkillable processes with libKSE

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030624 14:47]: I had the same experience just running the KSE test application from /usr/src/tools last night. I ended up with three unkillable ksetest applications and ultimately rebooted to get rid of them. I was planning to report it as soon as

Re: Unkillable processes with libKSE

2003-06-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030624 19:01]: As of last testing (yesterday my laptop (non SMP) acted the same.. I'm not sure what to suggest. can you confirm that you are running the newest of everything.. (though as far as I know it was ok, even several weeks ago). I'll re-cvsup

Re: Libthr stable enough for testing

2003-05-30 Thread Michael Edenfield
* James Tanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030529 17:18]: How does one go about using libthr? Is all that is involved is symlinking libc_r to libthr? That's the easiest way. You can also explicitly link applications with -lthr instead of -lc_r. And since libthr and libc_r are both 6 characters long,

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-27 Thread Michael Edenfield
* Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030527 23:51]: I am thinking of ports like rtc, ltmdm or Vmware here.. where it is not uncommon that they require reinstalling after an upgrade. I have experienced kernel panics on several occasions from out of date vmware kernel modules. I'm really of the

Re: sendmail_enable=NONE doesn't appear in rc.conf

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Edenfield
From: Daniel Flickinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:48 AM I have not checked recently, but 'make installworld' has always trashed files: /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/bin/mailq /usr/bin/newaliases which, in the default, are symbolic links to

Re: What's happened to CPUSTATES in /usr/include/devstat.h?

2003-03-02 Thread Michael Edenfield
From: Paolo Pisati [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 2:24 PM i noticed it while i was compiling kdebase-3, cause ksysguard failed. Add #include sys/resource.h to devstat.h to fix it. FWIW, I had the same problem (and used the same solution) with a few other X ports,