Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: ... Well, there are so many kinds of PERC cards. Some are just Mylex cards. Others are MegaRAID. I think they use some Adaptec now. My troubles were with the MegaRAID variant, I'm not sure about the others.. Either way, I tried booting the

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-03 Thread Tom
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: Tom wrote: Just to be complete, there are already a whole bunch of machines that will not boot 5.x, irregardless of the ACPI issues. I've never been able to boot 5.x with ACPI on or off, on any of the 5 Dell PowerEdge 6350 servers I have here,

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-03 Thread Eric Anderson
Tom wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: Tom wrote: Just to be complete, there are already a whole bunch of machines that will not boot 5.x, irregardless of the ACPI issues. I've never been able to boot 5.x with ACPI on or off, on any of the 5 Dell PowerEdge 6350 servers I

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-03 Thread Sten
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Tom wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: Tom wrote: Just to be complete, there are already a whole bunch of machines that will not boot 5.x, irregardless of the ACPI issues. I've never been able to boot 5.x with ACPI on or off, on any of the 5 Dell

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-02 Thread John Baldwin
On 02-Dec-2003 Scott Long wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 1 December 2003 at 10:01:23 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2 open issues list. Show stopper defects for 5.2-RELEASE

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-02 Thread Tom
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Scott Long wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 1 December 2003 at 10:01:23 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: ... I'm currently investigating ACPI problems on a dual processor Intel motherboard (re@ knows about this). It looks as if the new

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-02 Thread Eric Anderson
Tom wrote: Just to be complete, there are already a whole bunch of machines that will not boot 5.x, irregardless of the ACPI issues. I've never been able to boot 5.x with ACPI on or off, on any of the 5 Dell PowerEdge 6350 servers I have here, even though they run 4.9 perfectly. I have a PR

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
: This argument is exactly why I added the 'disable acpi' option in the boot : loader menu. Of course, we STILL need to get good debugging information : from you as to why you get a Trap 9 when ACPI is disabled. This is the : more important issue. : :This is actually a known issue on Intel

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Paul Murphy
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Scott Long
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 1 December 2003 at 17:12:23 -0700, Scott Long wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 1 December 2003 at 10:01:23 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2 open issues list. Show stopper defects for 5.2-RELEASE

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
Sigh. Try three to follow. My script was checking out only the www tree, and the checkout of the doc tree it depended on was gradually getting stale. At some point, it picked up a new dependency in the doc tree and the build broke. Hopefully third time will be the charm. Robert N M Watson

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-15 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-01 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-29 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-29 Thread Sergey A. Osokin
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:00:22AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2 open issues list. The live version of this list is available at: Desired features for 5.2-RELEASE

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-15 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-15 Thread Daniel Eischen
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-04 Thread Pierre Beyssac
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-10-01 Thread Robert Watson
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Way Down [The Line] (was: 5.2-RELEASE TODO)

2003-10-01 Thread RMH
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Sep 29), Wilko Bulte said: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:19:30PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: I also mentioned recently (in the last couple of days) that we should worry more about sparc64 than alpha. Simply because I think alpha is on it's way

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Userland bits | | | | | implemented, | | KSE support for

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Userland bits | | |

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Userland

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:32PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: You should probably remove Marcel from this item. This task needs another volunteer. Recently Marcel noted to me he was planning to engage on this one. I have offered him help for testing. The deal is this (if you find your

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:19:30PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:07:32PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: You should probably remove Marcel from this item. This task needs another volunteer. Recently Marcel noted to me he was planning to engage on this one. I

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 29), Wilko Bulte said: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:19:30PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: I also mentioned recently (in the last couple of days) that we should worry more about sparc64 than alpha. Simply because I think alpha is on it's way down and should already be

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Nelson writes: In my book sparc64 is also with one foot in the grave. As is Sun itself. Fujitsu makes sparc-compatible CPUs, too, so it'll be harder to kill the entire architecture like HP did with the Alpha. Having at least on architecture with the other

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-15 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 08:27:17PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: Sorry, I missed this when I did my scrub yesterday. I'll fix it now. Btw, does X work on it? Can I compile/install it without hassle? Yes. It installs Just Fine. You wont even notice the difference relative to an i386 machine.

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-03 Thread FUJIMOTO Kou
Scott Long wrote: Btw, does X work on it? Can I compile/install it without hassle? I've tried. portinstall XFree86-Server succeeded with no error. But XFree86 -configure dumps core and exits abnormally. In /var/log/messages: kernel: pid 23797 (XFree86), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped)

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-03 Thread Peter Wemm
Scott Long wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:00:17AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Productionable | | |

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people act like.. What the big deal. I don't need it why should you? You're certainly free to draw that conclusion, however you'd be mistaken. There are times when adding new features means that

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Nicole
On 02-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Doug Barton said : On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people act like.. What the big deal. I don't need it why should you? You're certainly free to draw that conclusion,

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: Sorry I didn't mean to be so testy I guess would discribe it. It's an old issue for me. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I've seen numerous posts from you, on several topics, all of them berating people for not giving you what you want, when you wanted

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
Doug Barton wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit it there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in in my config file? I didn't say anything about your hints file. You need to edit your kernel config file,

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
Scott Long wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit it there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in in my config file? I didn't say anything about your hints file. You need to edit your

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Scott Long wrote: Device flags are not specified in the kernel config anymore unless you try really, really hard. /etc/device.hints is the correct place to adjust this flag. Yeah, I was looking at the kernel config on the wrong box. This flag did used to be in GENERIC, so

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:00:17AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Productionable | | | | | support for the| |

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Scott Long
David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:00:17AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Productionable | | | | | support

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Scott Long
David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:00:17AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: |-+---+-+| | | | | Productionable | | | | | support

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole
Is anyone going to be fixing the sysinstall problem of not being able to re-slice a drive? For those who are not technical whizes this IS a big problem. We do still care about them right? Nicole |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) )

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nicole writes: Is anyone going to be fixing the sysinstall problem of not being able to re-slice a drive? For those who are not technical whizes this IS a big problem. We do still care about them right? If you are talking about using sysinstall to modify drives

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole
So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use) or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to modify any disk slice you did after an install your screwed into going back to caveman tools (which I admit I have NO IDEA how to use and I bet

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole
On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Marc G. Fournier said : On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote: So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use) or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to modify any disk slice

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole
BTW - I do thank you Marc for your advice. I know you were trying to assist. It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people act like.. What the big deal. I don't need it why should you? I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no keyboard

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-08-29 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-08-29 Thread Daniel Eischen
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-08-15 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-08-01 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-07-29 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-07-01 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread Tim Robbins
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread David Taylor
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Watson wrote: ++ |Issue| Status | Responsible | Description | |-+--+-+-| ^^^ I don't suppose

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, David Taylor wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robert Watson wrote: ++ |Issue| Status | Responsible | Description |

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread David Taylor
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, David Taylor wrote: I don't suppose it would be possible to delete a couple of those leading spaces on each line? Bah, ignore me, after deciding it was mutt's fault for wrapping it when it shouldn't be, I found the 'wrapmargin' setting in my muttrc file... Reducing that a

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread John-Mark Gurney
David Taylor wrote this message on Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 17:04 +0100: Although it fits into an 80-column display in vim/cat/whatever, mutt ends up wrapping it, and making it very ugly, but removing a couple of the spaces would make it fit fine. Reconfigure your mutt. It works fine over here on

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Tim Robbins wrote: This has already been fixed. Great, I'll update the list, thanks! Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Associates Laboratories ___ [EMAIL

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-15 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-03 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Actually, I would think it a desirable feature mac support that won't panic within 24 hours. :-) I've given up on mac again. Can't have it if it panics on every daily. :-( What's the plans for dealing with that? Robert Watson wrote: This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-03 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Actually, I would think it a desirable feature mac support that won't panic within 24 hours. :-) I've given up on mac again. Can't have it if it panics on every daily. :-( What's the plans for dealing with that? Right now I'm aware of one

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-03 Thread SUZUKI Shinsuke
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED](Robert Watson) said: | | | | The FreeBSD KAME| | | | | IPv6 code is now| | | | |

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-03 Thread Hiten Pandya
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:32:35PM +0900, SUZUKI Shinsuke wrote: I discussed this issued within KAME. Here's our rough plan about this synchronization. If you have some opinion, please let me know. When I've finished each merge, I'll ask you how to proceed. - sync per feature; don't

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-06-02 Thread Robert Watson
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5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-05-30 Thread Robert Watson
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-05-30 Thread Tim Robbins
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:00:13AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: |-+--+-+-| | | | | Almost all process | | | | | debugging tools