Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2012-01-05 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 01/04/12 14:56, Warner Losh wrote: On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: On 29/12/2011 18:39, Renato Botelho wrote: IIRC, PCBSD installer can install a regular FreeBSD on ZFS. It can do, but you're left with a /very/ basic installation - the hostname, network interfaces etc.

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2012-01-04 Thread Warner Losh
On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: On 29/12/2011 18:39, Renato Botelho wrote: IIRC, PCBSD installer can install a regular FreeBSD on ZFS. It can do, but you're left with a /very/ basic installation - the hostname, network interfaces etc. aren't configured, which could be a

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Renato Botelho
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Peter J. Cherny pet...@luddite.com.au wrote: Rather than hijack the previous thread, it's probably time to make a few comments on the current and future installation and use of ZFS FreeBSD. I've used both Solaris and FreeBSD since nearly day one for both OSs,

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/29/11 04:34, Mark Blackman wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is by using

Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Peter J. Cherny
Rather than hijack the previous thread, it's probably time to make a few comments on the current and future installation and use of ZFS FreeBSD. I've used both Solaris and FreeBSD since nearly day one for both OSs, so have a deal of familiarity in their use. I believe removal of sysinstall

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 29. Dec 2011, at 12:34 , Mark Blackman wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 29. Dec 2011, at 07:10 , Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Oh if it was for ZFS root only.. package management is gone in 10 with that as well but there is work in progress for the new

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Blackman
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Peter J. Cherny wrote: I believe removal of sysinstall exposes the community's blindness to a major parts of it's future, ZFS root. Other than following arcane recipes, the only way to create a system with ZFS root is by using Martin Matu?ka's excellent mfsboot images.

Re: Apropos Removal of sysinstall

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On 29/12/2011 18:39, Renato Botelho wrote: IIRC, PCBSD installer can install a regular FreeBSD on ZFS. It can do, but you're left with a /very/ basic installation - the hostname, network interfaces etc. aren't configured, which could be a problem for some people. If I thought there would