Eitan Adler wrote:
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Astrodog wrote:
Personally, I pay very little attention to the prompt. That being said...
Plenty of people prefer widely different configurations for the prompt.
I think everyone agrees that the default prompt isn't particularly
informative, h
... snip ...
> if ($?prompt) then
> # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
> - set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# "
> + set prompt = "[%n@%m]%c04%# "
> + set promptchars = "%#"
>
> Many people had alternative suggestions for the prompt. Can you please
> clarify why you
On 10/02/2012 17:25, Eitan Adler wrote:
> setenv BLOCKSIZE K
Why note BLOCKSIZE M? It's pretty much ridiculous to count kilobytes
nowadays.
> Many people had alternative suggestions for the prompt. Can you please
> clarify why you believe your prompt should be the _default_ one?
My promp
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Astrodog wrote:
>> Personally, I pay very little attention to the prompt. That being said...
>> Plenty of people prefer widely different configurations for the prompt.
>> I think everyone agrees that the defaul
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Astrodog wrote:
> Personally, I pay very little attention to the prompt. That being said...
> Plenty of people prefer widely different configurations for the prompt.
> I think everyone agrees that the default prompt isn't particularly
> informative, however, achiev
x27; must have everyone.
PAGER is not necessary.
And this is best prompt I think =)
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Chris Rees wrote:
set prompt = "[%n@%m]%c04%# "
it's not needed
need some as
alias ll ls -lAhG
alias ls ls -G
Lscolors are an abomination. -F or nothing at all is better; remember some
people will use white xterms etc.
Yeah, a +1 for me. Plain xterm with colorized output m
Alex Keda wrote:
On 10.02.2012 21:07, Chuck Burns wrote:
set prompt = "[%n@%m]%c04%# "
it's not needed
need some as
alias ll ls -lAhG
alias ls ls -G
set autolist = TAB
bindkey "\e[3~" delete-char
.
and other _really_ necessary settings
This can be as simple as defining CLICOLOR. Howe
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Chris Rees wrote:
>
> On 12 Feb 2012 17:11, "Chuck Swiger" wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
>> > Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all
>> > users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful?
>
On 12 Feb 2012 18:22, "Chuck Swiger" wrote:
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Chris Rees wrote:
> > So do I, but would these hurt you?
>
> At the present time, no. (At one point, I was using a keyboard
> where the arrow keys generated "ESC-[ 1 ~" through "4",
> IIRC, but I haven't been on console
On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Chris Rees wrote:
> So do I, but would these hurt you?
At the present time, no. (At one point, I was using a keyboard
where the arrow keys generated "ESC-[ 1 ~" through "4",
IIRC, but I haven't been on console on it in some time.)
> I think it's insane that by defaul
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 04:05:14AM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all
> users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful?
> bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line #make Home key work;
> bindkey "\e[2~" overwrite-mode #make Ins k
On 12 Feb 2012 17:11, "Chuck Swiger" wrote:
>
> On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> > Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all
> > users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful?
> >
> > bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line #make Home key work
On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all
> users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful?
>
> bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line #make Home key work;
> bindkey "\e[2~" overwrite-mode #make Ins key work;
>
> How about adding stuff like this to
/usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh ?
>
> --
> Joel
Yes to that.
This is exactly where these suggestions should go.
Feel free to create multiple examples files there but be very carefully
with changes to system wide defaults.
_
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Joel Dahl wrote:
> On 10-02-2012 9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Picking a random person to reply to.
>>
>> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
>> remember a few things:
>>
>> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
>> - Many users
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Joel Dahl wrote:
> On 12-02-2012 4:05, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Joel Dahl wrote:
>> > On 10-02-2012 9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> >> Picking a random person to reply to.
>> >>
>> >> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread
On 12-02-2012 4:05, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:07 AM, Joel Dahl wrote:
> > On 10-02-2012 9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> Picking a random person to reply to.
> >>
> >> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> >> remember a few things:
> >>
> >>
On 2/11/12 12:07 AM, Joel Dahl wrote:
On 10-02-2012 9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
Picking a random person to reply to.
There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
remember a few things:
- Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
- Many users will get annoyed by what is som
On 10-02-2012 9:03, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Picking a random person to reply to.
>
> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> remember a few things:
>
> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
> - Many users will get annoyed by what is someone else's amazing setup
On Friday, 10th February 2012, Eitan Adler wrote:
>-alias la ls -a
>+alias la ls -aF
> alias lf ls -FA
>-alias ll ls -lA
>+alias ll ls -lAF
>+alias ls ls -F
>
>Two people didn't like these changes but didn't explain why. This is
>incredibly helpful, especially f
on 11/02/2012 00:29 Chuck Swiger said the following:
> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> I really hate the default behavior of less where you can't quit via ^C or via
>> paging through the end of file.
>
> It's readily tunable, by setenv'ing LESS variable to contain some of:
>
>
On 2/10/12, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread. This post is an attempt
On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> I really hate the default behavior of less where you can't quit via ^C or via
> paging through the end of file.
It's readily tunable, by setenv'ing LESS variable to contain some of:
-e or --quit-at-eof
Causes less to automat
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on 10/02/2012 18:25 Eitan Adler said the following:
[snip]
> set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin
> /usr/local/bin $HOME/bin)
>
> setenv EDITOR vi
> -setenv PAGER more
> +setenv PAGER less
> setenv BLOCKSIZE K
> No one complained ab
On 10 Feb 2012 19:41, "Alex Keda" wrote:
>
> On 10.02.2012 21:07, Chuck Burns wrote:
>>
>> set prompt = "[%n@%m]%c04%# "
>
> it's not needed
>
> need some as
> alias ll ls -lAhG
> alias ls ls -G
Lscolors are an abomination. -F or nothing at all is better; remember some
people wil
On 10.02.2012 21:07, Chuck Burns wrote:
set prompt = "[%n@%m]%c04%# "
it's not needed
need some as
alias ll ls -lAhG
alias ls ls -G
set autolist = TAB
bindkey "\e[3~" delete-char
and other _really_ necessary settings
> complete chown 'p/1/u/'
> complete man
Am 10.02.2012 17:41, schrieb Gavin Atkinson:
> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:25 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
>> Picking a random email to reply to.
>>
>> My goal with this email is to reduce the amount of "controversial" changes.
>
> I applaud this. I've often considered doing the same but avoided it
> b
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 05:53:09PM +0200, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:
> Eitan Adler wrote:
> > set filec
> > - set history = 100
> > - set savehist = 100
> > + set history = 1
> > + set savehist = 1
>
> Just why not (1 merge)?
>
> > + set autolist
> > + # Use history to
On czw, lut 09, 2012 at 11:50:06 -0700, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> `
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
>
> >> there has been some discussion about changing the defau
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Gavin Atkinson
wrote:
> This change is disruptive, and it can affect use of ls(1) in scripts.
Scripts never use alias and...
> For example, it even sticks the extra characters in the output of
> "ls -1" (the number 1), which is specifically designed to be used w
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Chuck Burns wrote:
> On 2/10/2012 10:41 AM, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:25 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
>>>
>>> Picking a random email to reply to.
>>>
>>> My goal with this email is to reduce the amount of "controversial"
>>> changes.
>>
>> I
On 2/10/2012 10:41 AM, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:25 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
Picking a random email to reply to.
My goal with this email is to reduce the amount of "controversial" changes.
I applaud this. I've often considered doing the same but avoided it
because it was
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:25 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Picking a random email to reply to.
>
> My goal with this email is to reduce the amount of "controversial" changes.
I applaud this. I've often considered doing the same but avoided it
because it was easier than fighting the bikeshed :)
> c
Picking a random email to reply to.
My goal with this email is to reduce the amount of "controversial" changes.
commit 3ea4ea3a59d14cb060244618dd89d7dd0170bee1
diff --git a/etc/root/dot.cshrc b/etc/root/dot.cshrc
--- a/etc/root/dot.cshrc
+++ b/etc/root/dot.cshrc
@@ -7,9 +7,10 @@
alias h
Eitan Adler wrote:
set filec
- set history = 100
- set savehist = 100
+ set history = 1
+ set savehist = 1
Just why not (1 merge)?
+ set autolist
+ # Use history to aid expansion
+ set autoexpand
set mail = (/var/mail/$USER
On 10 Feb 2012 14:58, "Erich Dollansky"
wrote:
>
> Hi Eitan,
>
> On Friday 10 February 2012 21:03:52 Eitan Adler wrote:
> > Picking a random person to reply to.
> >
> > There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> > remember a few things:
> >
> > - Users can always add t
On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 19:52 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread.
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Joel Dahl wrote:
[completion examples]
How about adding stuff like this to /usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh ?
Along with a comment in .cshrc pointing to that file (or even a
commented line to source it), it would be an improvement. People who
can benefit the most
Hi Eitan,
On Friday 10 February 2012 21:03:52 Eitan Adler wrote:
> Picking a random person to reply to.
>
> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> remember a few things:
>
> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
> - Many users will get annoyed by what is some
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 09:03:52AM -0500, Eitan Adler wrote:
> Picking a random person to reply to.
>
> There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
> remember a few things:
>
> - Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
> - Many users will get annoyed by what is someone e
Eitan Adler wrote:
Picking a random person to reply to.
There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
remember a few things:
- Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
- Many users will get annoyed by what is someone else's amazing setup
The main problem of this is: nov
Picking a random person to reply to.
There are a lot of good suggestions in this thread, but can we please
remember a few things:
- Users can always add their own ~/.cshrc
- Many users will get annoyed by what is someone else's amazing setup
The changes I proposed were designed to add value whil
Hi,
On Friday 10 February 2012 19:36:29 Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> (from Fri, 10 Feb 2012
> 12:05:59 +0100):
>
> > I would like to share them with others, if there are interrest to
> > include it in stock FreeBSD base.
>
> If there's no interest,
Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> (from Fri, 10 Feb 2012
12:05:59 +0100):
I would like to share them with others, if there are interrest to
include it in stock FreeBSD base.
If there's no interest, or no consent to add a specific one, why not
collect them in a wiki-page?
Bye,
On 09-02-2012 23:50, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
>
> >> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
> > I
Erich Dollansky wrote:
Hi,
On Friday 10 February 2012 18:05:59 Miroslav Lachman wrote:
Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
I would like to share them with others, if there are interrest to
include it in stock FreeBSD base.
just publish them at least here. It will
Hi,
On Friday 10 February 2012 18:05:59 Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> Warren Block wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> >
>
> I would like to share them with others, if there are interrest to
> include it in stock FreeBSD base.
>
just publish them at least here. It will always be
Hi,
On Friday 10 February 2012 13:50:06 Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
>
> The question becomes "how much is too much?" For example,
Warren Block wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
In the same line that Wojciech on the P
> If tcsh could be updated to version 6.18.00 "set autorehash" would be
> really nice. With that you'll never have to type "rehash" again. :)
Yes please!
Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:52:58 -0500
Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread. Th
On 09-02-2012 19:52, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread. This post is a
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
In the same line that Wojciech on the PR ".cshrc should be u
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:52:58 -0500
Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread. Thi
On 02/10/12 11:52, Eitan Adler wrote:
> In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
> there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
>
> I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
> at the end of the thread. This post is an
Do the promptchars work correctly on csh as well as tcsh?
Adrian
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In conf/160689 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=160689)
there has been some discussion about changing the default cshrc file.
I'd like to commit something like the following based on Chris's patch
at the end of the thread. This post is an attempt to open the change
to wider discussion.
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