Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread tj
> > Fixed, and reuploaded. because there should be some caching on people.f.o you > cannot yet see the fixed version but I have fixed it. It is supposed to be a > monocolumn as far as I understand it. Yup, that renders fine for me now too. - [tj]

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread tj
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 02:07:00PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:45:19AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > No the problem left is documentations available in share/doc. > > > > > > I would like

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 01:12:51PM +0100, tj wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 02:07:00PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:45:19AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > > No the problem left is

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 01:12:51PM +0100, tj wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 02:07:00PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:45:19AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > > No the problem left is

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:45:19AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > No the problem left is documentations available in share/doc. > > > > I would like to push them elsewhere. Those documents are mostly useful for > > historical

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-25 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > No the problem left is documentations available in share/doc. > > I would like to push them elsewhere. Those documents are mostly useful for > historical reason (hence we want to keep them) but not really for daily use of >

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Mr. McKusick, Kirk McKusick wrote: |Thanks for all your work on this project. As I still use roff for |our book and for many of my presentations, it is a topic of interest |to me. That said, I am fine with roff dropping out of base as I can |easily enough bring it in

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-23 Thread Hiroki Sato
Kirk McKusick wrote in <201705232013.v4nkdhn3066...@chez.mckusick.com>: mc> Thanks for all your work on this project. As I still use roff for mc> our book and for many of my presentations, it is a topic of interest mc> to me. That said, I am fine with roff dropping out

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-23 Thread Kirk McKusick
Thanks for all your work on this project. As I still use roff for our book and for many of my presentations, it is a topic of interest to me. That said, I am fine with roff dropping out of base as I can easily enough bring it in from ports. And I am curious to try using heirloom doctools on our

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 21/5/17 8:57 pm, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi all, [...] No the problem left is documentations available in share/doc. I would like to push them elsewhere. Those documents are mostly useful for historical reason (hence we want to keep them) but not really for daily use of modern FreeBSD.

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-21 Thread Eric van Gyzen
I like all of this. Thanks for your very thorough research and effort. Eric On 05/21/2017 07:57, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been working for a while to try to import a modern roff toolchain into > base. > > I didn't like the initial approach that consisted in simply

Re: The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-21 Thread Joel Dahl
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 02:57:33PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > I would like to change this approach and get back to the initial approach > taken > by others before I jumped in and I would like just entirely remove the roff > toolchain from base and let people rely on GNU roff from

The futur of the roff toolchain

2017-05-21 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi all, I have been working for a while to try to import a modern roff toolchain into base. I didn't like the initial approach that consisted in simply removing all roff toolchain in base. Recap of the situation in base: * We have GNU roff version 1.19.2 in base (latest GPLv2 version). Lots of