Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:11 Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > Hello, > > On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > > run by the same developers as it has been. We are just commonizing on > > the repo that has the most features

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 06:39 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:49:38PM +0500, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > > On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > > > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > > > run by the same developers as it has been. We a

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:49 PM Allan Jude wrote: > I am to give a big thanks to Matt Ahrens for organizing the monthly > OpenZFS Leadership meeting, and the OpenZFS developer summit, and to > Brian Behlendorf for being so helpful, and willing to work to make > OpenZFS better for everyone. > I'd

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On 12/19/2018 13:32, Allan Jude wrote: Today, the OpenZFS repo is just a fork of the illumos-gate repo, but where pull requests are accepted, and where previous Delphix employees This should say 'previously', Prakash Surya and Matt Ahrens still work at Delphix. would deal with the process o

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:33 AM Warner Losh wrote: > > > Matt, > > This is a fairly comprehensive plan. Kudos for putting it together. > > The big question here is do you have a complete list of FreeBSD-specific > changes that will be lost in the cut-over? We've heard about TRIM support and > ma

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Matt, This is a fairly comprehensive plan. Kudos for putting it together. The big question here is do you have a complete list of FreeBSD-specific changes that will be lost in the cut-over? We've heard about TRIM support and maybe NFSv4, but are there others that can be identified? Once you have

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, 2018-12-20 at 08:15 -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: > I also think people will not accept regressions or other POLA > violations. +1 ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscri

RE: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

c: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:49:38PM +0500, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > > run by the same develope

RE: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

- From: Eugene M. Zheganin Sent: 20/12/2018 03:12 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD Hello, On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > run by the same developers as it has been.

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:49:38PM +0500, Eugene M. Zheganin wrote: > On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: > > The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still > > run by the same developers as it has been. We are just commonizing on > > the repo that has the most features i

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

> On 20 Dec 2018, at 11:58, Steven Hartland wrote: > > > > On 20/12/2018 11:03, Bob Bishop wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 23:16, Matthew Macy wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 15:11 Steven Hartland >>> wrote: >>> Sorry been off for a few weeks so must have missed that,

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On 20/12/2018 11:03, Bob Bishop wrote: Hi, On 19 Dec 2018, at 23:16, Matthew Macy wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 15:11 Steven Hartland wrote: Sorry been off for a few weeks so must have missed that, please do prod me on again if you don’t see any response to anything not just this. Like

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Hello, On 19.12.2018 23:32, Allan Jude wrote: The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still run by the same developers as it has been. We are just commonizing on the repo that has the most features integrated into it. Does it mean that ZoF and thus FreeBSD will lose NF

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Hi, > On 19 Dec 2018, at 23:16, Matthew Macy wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 15:11 Steven Hartland > wrote: > >> Sorry been off for a few weeks so must have missed that, please do prod me >> on again if you don’t see any response to anything not just this. Like many >> others I get so may e

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 15:11 Steven Hartland wrote: > Sorry been off for a few weeks so must have missed that, please do prod me > on again if you don’t see any response to anything not just this. Like many > others I get so may emails across so many lists it’s more than likely I > just missed i

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Sorry been off for a few weeks so must have missed that, please do prod me on again if you don’t see any response to anything not just this. Like many others I get so may emails across so many lists it’s more than likely I just missed it. That said would you say that with the right support we can

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 14:47 Steven Hartland wrote: > Thanks for the write up most appreciated. One of the more meaty > differences is that FreeBSD ZFS still has the only merged and production > ready TRIM support so my question would be are their any plans to address > this before creating the

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Thanks for the write up most appreciated. One of the more meaty differences is that FreeBSD ZFS still has the only merged and production ready TRIM support so my question would be are their any plans to address this before creating the new port as going back to a world without TRIM support wouldn’t

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On 12/19/18 10:32 AM, Allan Jude wrote: The biggest thing to remember is that this is still OpenZFS, and still run by the same developers as it has been. We are just commonizing on the repo that has the most features integrated into it. thanks for the clarification on this, as i was a bit c

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:35 AM Shawn Webb wrote: > I'm curious what this means for OpenZFS. > OpenZFS will continue to be an umbrella project for coordinating all work on open-source ZFS. The primary activities of OpenZFS are the annual OpenZFS Developer Summit

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On 2018-12-19 11:30, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:49:48PM -0800, Matthew Macy wrote: >> The sources for FreeBSD's ZFS support are currently taken directly >> from Illumos with local ifdefs to support the peculiarities of FreeBSD >> where the Solaris Portability Layer (SPL) shims f

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

> On 19 Dec 2018, at 08:35, Matthew Macy wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:49 PM Enji Cooper > wrote: >> >> Hello Matthew, >> >> I appreciate the long write up, as someone who still uses FreeBSD ZFS on my >> NAS box and knowing some of the history with ZFS

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:49:48PM -0800, Matthew Macy wrote: > The sources for FreeBSD's ZFS support are currently taken directly > from Illumos with local ifdefs to support the peculiarities of FreeBSD > where the Solaris Portability Layer (SPL) shims fall short. FreeBSD > has regularly pulled ch

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:49 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > > Hello Matthew, > > I appreciate the long write up, as someone who still uses FreeBSD ZFS on my > NAS box and knowing some of the history with ZFS on *Solaris, etc. Something > like this was bound to happen with post the Oracle buyout. > > >

Re: The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

Hello Matthew, I appreciate the long write up, as someone who still uses FreeBSD ZFS on my NAS box and knowing some of the history with ZFS on *Solaris, etc. Something like this was bound to happen with post the Oracle buyout. > On Dec 18, 2018, at 10:49 PM, Matthew Macy wrote: > > The source

The future of ZFS in FreeBSD

The sources for FreeBSD's ZFS support are currently taken directly from Illumos with local ifdefs to support the peculiarities of FreeBSD where the Solaris Portability Layer (SPL) shims fall short. FreeBSD has regularly pulled changes from Illumos and tried to push back any bug fixes and new featur