Thus spake Peter Jeremy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jeremyp inplat 96509 Dec 17 08:08 minigzip
% cc -O -o minigzip minigzip.c /usr/lib/libz.a
What about stripping?
root:/usr/src/usr.bin/minigzip $ ls -l minigzip
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 96921 17 Dez 12:35 minigzip
On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote:
Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current:
gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable.
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip
It requires the 50Kb libz.so.2 though and some of libc.
Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote in list.freebsd-current:
On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote:
Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current:
gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable.
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip
It
Also sprach Oliver Fromme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable.
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip
ok, even better :-)
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On 1999-Dec-16 19:55:35 +1100, Steve O'Hara-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15-Dec-99 Oliver Fromme wrote:
Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current:
gunzip has approx 106 kb, but you save about 50% per executeable.
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4648 Jan 28 1999 /usr/bin/minigzip
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 05:31:13PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:
Click-click, hosed up beyond repair. What I mean to say is that
GUI != easy to administer. M$ has plenty of examples available.
There's a difference between useful GUI design and
Is Qt going to be put into the base system in this case? If
I can wrestle along with figuring out a few little problems with
Qt (ones that I could even somehow more easily solve with
Motif!), then I'll continue to develop my system administration
tool(s) with it.
No, I don't envision
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
Peter Jeremy wrote:
Firstly, size: One of sysinstall's requirements is that it fit (along
with a variety of other related commands) onto a floppy disk. Last
time I checked, the /stand bundle (sysinstall + friends) was ~640K.
The smallest X-server
This all sounds like a decision, whether we want to be a desktop
or a server-only system.
For mainly server-oriented, the "install source to update" or
console-based setups are quite enough, because the system will
most probably administraded by people, that know, what they are
doing.
But if we
Adam Strohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Hey, I like CUI. I'd rather install with a CUI than a GUI, all other
things being equal. And besides some quirks here and there, I really
like sysinstall.
Its nice, but its not where it should be.
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
This is important to note... 25% of all the installs I do are
on MGA (remember monochrome graphics adapter - a hercules card.)
True, hence there would be other display targets, ie; CUI, and I like
Jordan's text-only non GUI idea, too. It
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:41:56 +0100, "Thomas Runge" wrote:
So, we have a very good server OS, let's focus a little bit
more on the desktop.
Most developers are more concerned with improving the operating system
itself than providing an inviting desktop experience.
The problem is that it's
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
VESA syscons, either using libvgl and an array of crude widgets or
something like MGR and its widget set, has long been on the wish-list
but I didn't even include it in my summary since it's still very much
a pipe-dream. :-)
Hmm, this has been a
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Thomas Runge wrote:
This all sounds like a decision, whether we want to be a desktop
or a server-only system.
I don't agree at all -- I think that's another divsion which is
orthogonal to the current discussion. Why can't we be a server OS
with a
At 7:34 AM -0500 1999/12/15, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
This is important to note... 25% of all the installs I do are
on MGA (remember monochrome graphics adapter - a hercules card.)
So, I would not be in favor of any replacement that required a VESA
or VGA platform...
There a more Linux distros with grahical installs. Correl 1.0 - based
upon debian. Also, I believe that SUSE 6.3 has one also.
Tom Veldhouse
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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Don 'Duck' Harper wrote:
Sometime Tomorrow, Daniel C. Sobral said something like this:
:-)But the fact is that
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
VESA syscons, either using libvgl and an array of crude widgets or
something like MGR and its widget set, has long been on the wish-list
but I didn't even include it in my summary since it's still very much
a pipe-dream. :-) There's actually one mode you forgot,
Thus spake Don 'Duck' Harper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
fires up XFree86's VGA server. And it fits all this on one floppy. They
do have two floppies, one for local CD/disk installs, and another for
NFS/FTP/HTTP/SMB installs.
So, I know it can be done. Is it worth the effort? I donno.
Maybe
Alexander Langer wrote in list.freebsd-current:
Thus spake Don 'Duck' Harper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
fires up XFree86's VGA server. And it fits all this on one floppy. They
do have two floppies, one for local CD/disk installs, and another for
NFS/FTP/HTTP/SMB installs.
So, I know it
Chris Costello wrote:
So is all of this (TCL, Qt, et. al.) going into the base
system to facilitate this work?
NOT AGAIN! Please! In particular TCL.
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What do you want in making Unix quick to administer? Seems to
me that's the real goal of those things. Click click click done,
you know.
/me clear the throat
GUI's are *NEVER* the faster way to administer. They can make faster a
very limited set of tasks. When I
Wilko Bulte wrote:
This does, however, have all the risks of building yet another SMIT or
SAM. :-( Neither attempt at making Unix sysadm 'user-friendly' makes
me want to cheer.
Actually, I very much like both SMIT (in it's 4.x incarnation) and SAM.
Sure, I'll complain loudly if that was the
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
Perhaps you mean "easy" instead of "quick"? Or maybe "quick" as in "flat
learning curve"?
Thats it. We have to provide some tools to easily administrate
the system for the *avarage* user (but without breaking the
"old fashioned way")
It would be nice, if we really
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:33:19PM +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Thomas Runge wrote:
For mainly server-oriented, the "install source to update" or
console-based setups are quite enough, because the system will
most probably administraded by people,
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 05:28:32PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Donn Miller wrote:
Maybe we could call it "sysconfig", in honor of the old
/etc/sysconfig file that was superceded bt /etc/rc.conf.
That's not very creative! I had "Trident" in mind. Only
problem
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 05:44:32PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:
This does, however, have all the risks of building yet another SMIT or
SAM. :-( Neither attempt at making Unix sysadm 'user-friendly' makes
me want to cheer.
What do you want in
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 03:32:09PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
And: how many people would volunteer for such a job?
Or is it assumed that since this appears suspiciously like Real Work
it will be a paid-for job?
It will be a paid-for job, naturally.
:)
Something we also have to
Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
How about PolarBear in that case? :)
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Wilko Bulte wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 05:28:32PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Donn Miller wrote:
Maybe we could call it "sysconfig", in honor of the old
/etc/sysconfig file that was superceded bt /etc/rc.conf.
That's not very creative! I had "Trident"
Wilko Bulte wrote:
Whatever [CG]UI you throw at the problem at hand: there is *NO* programmer-
fixable way out from cluelessnes. What good would be a system that is
a snap to install but once it is installed it says # to you?
It says /etc/motd to you, actually. :-)
--
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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:44:17AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
How about PolarBear in that case? :)
I was under the impression that Polar Bears are native to the
North Pole and penguins are from the South Pole.
Promoting a
On 15 Dec, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
How about PolarBear in that case? :)
Okpicky time here.
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their
Jon Parise wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 11:44:17AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
How about PolarBear in that case? :)
I was under the impression that Polar Bears are native to the
North Pole and penguins are from the
I was under the impression that Polar Bears are native to the
North Pole and penguins are from the South Pole.
Really? What eats penguins then? Maybe walrus?
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Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are killer whales and leopard seals.
I knew we'd get to the bottom of this eventually. We're hackers,
not naturalists! :-)
OK, I
Okpicky time here.
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are killer whales and leopard seals.
So then ... "Orca"!
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On 15 Dec, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are killer whales and leopard seals.
I knew we'd get to the bottom of this eventually. We're
On 1999-Dec-16 06:53:52 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica.
And southern Australia (there are penguin colonies in both Sydney and
Melbourne), New Zealand, the southern bits of South America, South
Georgia Island, probably South Africa.
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I was under the impression that Polar Bears are native to the
North Pole and penguins are from the South Pole.
Really? What eats penguins then? Maybe walrus?
Arctic Foxes.
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Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
The northern hemisphere penguin type birds are called
Auks. Close cousin to penguins. I don't know whether the
Inuit hunt them or not.
Bruce
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Donn Miller wrote:
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I was under the impression that Polar Bears are native to the
North Pole and penguins are from the South Pole.
Really? What eats penguins then? Maybe walrus?
Arctic Foxes.
- Donn
I doubt it. No
At 12:04 PM -0800 1999/12/15, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
OK, I hereby vote for "orca" as the code name. It's shorter than
"leopard seal" :)
Except that there is already a well-known tool by that name. See
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/.
--
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 12:04 PM -0800 1999/12/15, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
OK, I hereby vote for "orca" as the code name. It's shorter than
"leopard seal" :)
Except that there is already a well-known tool by that name. See
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
With due attention paid to realities I offer the following two code
names for your consideration:
"freon"
YES! This has my vote
- ( Adam Strohl ) -
- UNIX Operations/Systems
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 02:53:52PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15 Dec, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Call it Inuit. (rationale: Inuit feed on pinguins (right?))
How about PolarBear in that case? :)
Okpicky time here.
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 09:24:04PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are
Hm, if correct, Orca would make a good codename for a sysadm tool:
Ordinary Ramblers Can [now] Admin [FreeBSD]
Someone pointed out that Orca was already taken The question NOW
is: Can you come up with a good acronym for "SHAMU"?
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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Sanford Owings wrote:
Someone pointed out that Orca was already taken The question NOW
is: Can you come up with a good acronym for "SHAMU"?
Systems Have an Administration Monstrosity Underfoot.
Sounds a bit derogatory if I want people to _use_ the thing.
--
Okpicky time here.
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are killer whales and leopard seals.
Back to lurking...
Actually, Penguins are found all the way into the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes:
Polar bears and Inuits are found near the North Pole (Alaska,
Greenland, etc).
Penguins are typically only found in Antarctica. Their only natural
enemies are killer whales and leopard seals.
I knew we'd get to the bottom
Hm, if correct, Orca would make a good codename for a sysadm tool:
Ordinary Ramblers Can [now] Admin [FreeBSD]
Someone pointed out that Orca was already taken The question NOW
is: Can you come up with a good acronym for "SHAMU"?
Easy...
Some Help for Another Misguided
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
Hm, if correct, Orca would make a good codename for a sysadm tool:
Ordinary Ramblers Can [now] Admin [FreeBSD]
Someone pointed out that Orca was already taken The question NOW
is: Can you come up with a good acronym for
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neal Westfall
writes:
: "System Hoser and Mangling Utility"
Shamu Helps Any Moronic User
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 05:28:32PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Donn Miller wrote:
Maybe we could call it "sysconfig", in honor of the old
/etc/sysconfig file that was superceded bt /etc/rc.conf.
That's not very
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
GUI's are *NEVER* the faster way to administer. They can make faster a
very limited set of tasks. When I worked with AIX, even though I was
very comfortable with SMIT, at any time when I wanted to do something
fast, it was CLI all the way.
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 10:21:40PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote:
"flourocarbons"
fluorocarbons aka CFK. There is a relation with computing: Seymour used
them to keep his machines thermally sound.
Call it "cfc" -- "The tool you want to use when you want to keep
FreeBSD cool." :-)
-
Daniel brings up a good point about SMIT (I don't know about SAM,
not being a HP geek :)
One helpful feature of SMIT/smitty is that it allows you to display
the command that you are about to run. It also saves a history of
its session in $HOME/smit.log, which can be used later to repeat
actions
System Housekeeping Advanced Management Utility ?
[ can we loose the H please? Sounds like a broom to me ]
SHyshtem advanshed managedment utilititily? (hic)
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"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
All true, I'm afraid. All I can say is that efforts to revive the
effort to replace sysinstall are underway and we're even trying to
throw some money-shaped darts at the problem in hopes that we'll hit
something. I'm cautiously pessimistic, so we'll see. :)
As
As far as the successor to sysinstall goes, I think it would be
nice to have both a console version and an X version, with some X
tookit such as Lesstif or Qt, or Tcl/Tk. It could be a lot like
RedHat's "linuxconf", where you can use it as both an installer
or system administration tool.
At 1:49 AM -0800 1999/12/14, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Sure, I can hear you yelling at those
novices from here: "JUST SWITCH TO THE OTHER VTY AND *LOOK*, YOU
CHEESEHEADS!", but it's never that simple.
Yup, this is me. Been there, done that many
On 1999-Dec-14 18:36:04 +1100, Donn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as the successor to sysinstall goes, I think it would be
nice to have both a console version and an X version, with some X
tookit such as Lesstif or Qt, or Tcl/Tk.
I know Jordan mentioned Qt before his over-enthusiastic
Firstly, size: One of sysinstall's requirements is that it fit (along
with a variety of other related commands) onto a floppy disk. Last
time I checked, the /stand bundle (sysinstall + friends) was ~640K.
The smallest X-server (XF86_VGA16) is 1.7MB (plus libraries). I don't
have either
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 07:47:00AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 1999-Dec-14 18:36:04 +1100, Donn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as the successor to sysinstall goes, I think it would be
nice to have both a console version and an X version, with some X
tookit such as Lesstif or
Peter Jeremy wrote:
Firstly, size: One of sysinstall's requirements is that it fit (along
with a variety of other related commands) onto a floppy disk. Last
time I checked, the /stand bundle (sysinstall + friends) was ~640K.
The smallest X-server (XF86_VGA16) is 1.7MB (plus libraries). I
On 14-Dec-99 Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 1999-Dec-14 18:36:04 +1100, Donn Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as the successor to sysinstall goes, I think it would be
nice to have both a console version and an X version, with some X
tookit such as Lesstif or Qt, or Tcl/Tk.
I know Jordan
I know Jordan mentioned Qt before his over-enthusiastic hand-waving
made him over-balance, but Lesstif and Qt (or anything else related to
X11) have a number of serious problems.
That's ok; He also said it could be back-ended by TurboVision, with
the decision of which GUI to use
Today Mike Smith wrote:
Given the primary mission of sysinstall is to load FreeBSD, I'd
go so far as to say that developing an X version would be wasting
valuable developer resources (IMHO, of course).
It's a painful tradeoff between functionality and flash. The latter is
an
Personally, I like the speed of the current installation and wouldn't
want to wait for X to start. It will triple my install setup time
since right now I'm hardware speed limited (nearly) with sysinstall.
It is much faster to draw the dialog boxes with libdialog than to
start X.
But I'm a
Personally, I like the speed of the current installation and wouldn't
want to wait for X to start. It will triple my install setup time
since right now I'm hardware speed limited (nearly) with sysinstall.
It is much faster to draw the dialog boxes with libdialog than to
start X.
It will
Most people I have shown the FreeBSD installer are much more impressed
with it than Redhat's snazzy GUI.
-Kip
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, jack wrote:
Today Mike Smith wrote:
Given the primary mission of sysinstall is to load FreeBSD, I'd
go so far as to say
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 08:33:52AM +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 07:47:00AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
Given the primary mission of sysinstall is to load FreeBSD, I'd
go so far as to say that developing an X version would be wasting
valuable developer resources
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Donn Miller wrote:
Maybe we could call it "sysconfig", in honor of the old
/etc/sysconfig file that was superceded bt /etc/rc.conf.
That's not very creative! I had "Trident" in mind. Only
problem is that the name is used by a company that makes video
card chips and
And: how many people would volunteer for such a job?
Or is it assumed that since this appears suspiciously like Real Work
it will be a paid-for job?
It will be a paid-for job, naturally.
Something we also have to stay aware of in this discussion is the fact
that even if most hackers could
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
That's one of the design precepts of the New System, in fact. There
is one common UI abstraction which sysinstall II (hereafter referred
to as Setup) and the new package system both use. The generic UI
front-end API is "bound" at runtime to a
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Peter Jeremy wrote:
[...]
Motif, it's several times the size of the Xserver. Unless we want to
mandate the use of ZIP drives (or similar) as FreeBSD install
floppies, we're limited to a syscons (or VTxxx) sysinstall.
There is a device
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
Firstly, size: One of sysinstall's requirements is that it fit (along
with a variety of other related commands) onto a floppy disk. Last
time I checked, the /stand bundle (sysinstall + friends) was ~640K.
The smallest X-server (XF86_VGA16) is 1.7MB
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:
This does, however, have all the risks of building yet another SMIT or
SAM. :-( Neither attempt at making Unix sysadm 'user-friendly' makes
me want to cheer.
What do you want in making Unix quick to administer? Seems to
me that's the real goal of
I have one request for whatever becomes of sysinstall. And that is to
make it technically consistent with the command line utilities capabilities.
For example, I ran into (on several different occasions) problems where
i would label a disk, allocate paritions, change parition types, etc.,
and
Argh!!! SMIT! Hack! Puke!
Why do we have to make FreeBSD more like HP-UX? the most sucky UNIX ever
invented apart from AIX?
Those of us old enough to remember the SunView install tool with graphical
disk icons and the amazing 'free disk hog' barchart partition manager, while
finding it vaguely
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Something we also have to stay aware of in this discussion is the fact
that even if most hackers could give a fig for graphical installers
and consider them to be an unneeded bit of hand-holding, it would
still be nice to have a framework which
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, George Michaelson wrote:
Why do we have to make FreeBSD more like HP-UX? the most sucky UNIX ever
invented apart from AIX?
Is this a fact? I always sort of liked HP-UX. Not as fun as
FreeBSD for obvious reasons, but...
sysinstall is perfectly good enough as an
On Wed, Dec 15, 1999, George Michaelson wrote:
Why do we have to make FreeBSD more like HP-UX? the most sucky UNIX ever
invented apart from AIX?
Hmmph. When FreeBSD has a fully SMP-ized kernel, including filesystem and
network stacks and device drivers, and when it has something that
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
As far as the successor to sysinstall goes, I think it would be
nice to have both a console version and an X version, with some X
tookit such as Lesstif or Qt, or Tcl/Tk. It could be a lot like
RedHat's "linuxconf", where you can use it as both an installer
My interest lies in exactly the opposite direction: I want to stick
a floppy in and have a box find an install server and follow a
pre-defined recipe for building itself, ala Jumpstart or Kickstart.
And you're far from alone in wanting this, another reason I've been
wanting to go to a
Just to to correct a misunderstanding...
Ryan Thompson wrote:
Daniel, here, sees the X install as being "user-friendly". Is the text
based install not? Granted, it's not the point and click interface that
windows users are accustomed to, but, clearly, if users can't navigate the
menus
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Hey, I like CUI. I'd rather install with a CUI than a GUI, all other
things being equal. And besides some quirks here and there, I really
like sysinstall.
Its nice, but its not where it should be.
But the fact is that when we get featured in a
If we follow jkh's outline, making another "front end target" for the
script shouldn't be that hard. You have X, VESA Syscons, and Text
Syscons.
The script says "ok, prompt user for blah", under X it opens a window,
under Text some ASCII dialog, and under VESA a little window.
VESA
There's actually one mode you forgot, which is
what I call "text mode", and that's straight ascii prompts, no CUI-style
dialog boxes or anything.
You can reprogram the character table and draw fairly nice looking menus
in text mode. The last generations of MS-DOS based programs used them
Folks,
In looking through the sysinstall source, I noticed that the man
page states
that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will
eventually
be replaced."
Is there any truth to this? Apparently this verbiage was introduced in
rev 1.20 because the previous text
that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will
eventually
be replaced."
The handy thing about "eventually" is that it can be a long time. :)
Amusingly, the man page author (Jordan?) says, "This utility is a
prototype which lasted approximately 3 years past its
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