On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 02:35:43AM +0100, Ollivier Robert wrote:
[I said about ntpd usage of sched_* functions:]
We should make them standard IMO.
According to John Polstra:
I agree.
BTW, as the sched_* POSIX functions are now standard in GENERIC, I've decided
along with the upgrade
[I said about ntpd usage of sched_* functions:]
We should make them standard IMO.
According to John Polstra:
I agree.
BTW, as the sched_* POSIX functions are now standard in GENERIC, I've decided
along with the upgrade to ntpd 4.0.99b to re-enable them.
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That sucks severely - NONE of the common units have the PPS output?!
Barf. Oh well.
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42:24PM
That sucks severely - NONE of the common units have the PPS output?!
Barf. Oh well.
Many of them do, but it's still not meant for precision timekeeping and the
exact relationship between its PPS pulse edges and UTC's second boundaries
may not be precisely specified. It's not a good
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
: I will (as always) recommend the Motorola Oncore UT+. If you buy it
We've also had excellent luck with the OEM version of the Oncore that
we embed in our products.
Warner
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 02:33:35PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: That's EXPENSIVE.
Worth every penny. We've seen sub-micro second syncronization with
our unit on good hardware, and 1-2us on the 486 based hardware.
: Common handheld GPS
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge?
For the Motorola name? Sorry, the Batwing Menace to employee's rights was
long ago placed on my "do not buy, do not recommend, actively boycott" list.
Well, suit your own political
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge?
Because we need a PPS that is 10nS from the true start of second for
our application? 1uS is really really bad for the timing geeks in the
audience.
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:32:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge?
Because we need a PPS that is 10nS from the true start of second for
our application? 1uS is really really bad for
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge?
For the Motorola name? Sorry, the Batwing Menace to employee's rights was
long ago placed on my "do not
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: And on what hardware do you think you can obtain 10ns resolution RELIABLY
: at the software level in the Unix environment and under FreeBSD?
:
: Answer: NONE!
WRONG.
:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge?
Well, suit your own political manifests as you will, but
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: Yes, you have HARDWARE timers that do that.
:
: So what?
:
: I'm talking about TIME SERVERS on UNIX machines.
So am I.
: You know, ntpd and friends? Yes, that.
That's one of the things in our application.
: Now explain to me how
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:50:35PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karl Denninger writes:
: Yes, you have HARDWARE timers that do that.
:
: So what?
:
: I'm talking about TIME SERVERS on UNIX machines.
So am I.
: You know, ntpd and friends? Yes, that.
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:53:55PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
..snip..
If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all
the helpful answers you have gotten so far, you should consider
stopping before you
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote:
If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all
the helpful answers you have gotten so far, you should consider
stopping before you have worn out your welcome.
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:13:10PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:53:55PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
..snip..
If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all
the helpful
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:17:59PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote:
If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all
the helpful answers you have gotten so far, you should consider
stopping before you have worn out your welcome.
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote:
Why the hell Walnut Creek wastes their money on your type REMAINS beyond
my comprehension.
It really hasn't been a problem for anyone but you. It's more successful,
then say, alternative top level domain projects that have gone nowhere.
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:37:31PM -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote:
How many millions does Paol have to count in HIS bank as a result of this
shilling and "advocacy"?
SOME OF US have *REAL* successes to point to - not just bullshit pats on the
Karl, I was my hands of this conversation. You aren't listening.
We have custom hardware. We're a control and measurement system. The
10ns is needed for that control and measurement part. The sync we
get of the system clock, like I said before, is on the order of a few
hundred ns on pentium
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:08:31PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
As for whoever the person is who force-removed me from the list, trust
me on this - I won't forget that act, and until you're identified and
permanently removed from both the list and the entire project you'll
have no
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:44:57PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote:
sarcasm
We can point to the Internet's evolution of these "treehouse" organizations
and show off how PROUD we are of them and those who support them.
Let's start a nice short list, shall we?
Network Solutions.
ARIN.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ollivier Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to John Polstra:
Current versions of ntpd use these features if they're available. I
The ntpd daemon in -CURRENT doesn't use these as we cannot be sure the user
has enabled them.
I don't understand why
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does (someone) need to do to get this changed out/updated? I can't
send it in as a port, since its part of the base package (setting
it up as a port would be pretty trivial from what I can see)
There already _is_ a
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like ntpd (the new one) works correctly; I grabbed the latest
from the official site last night and by this morning the dispersion
and offsets were stable.
BTW, you might want to add these lines (from LINT) to
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:33:31AM -0800, John Polstra wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does (someone) need to do to get this changed out/updated? I can't
send it in as a port, since its part of the base package (setting
it up as a
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of STEP changes
instead of what you SHOULD get, which is a slew
According to Karl Denninger:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Part of 3.4-R yes. I removed xntpd (3.4e) from current a month ago and put
ntpd (4.0.98f, soon to be 4.1.0) in its place.
What does (someone) need to do to get this changed out/updated? I can't
send it in as a port,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of STEP changes
instead of what you SHOULD get, which is a slew on the system clock.
Remember to get the kernel code involved. To do
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of STEP
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like ntpd (the new one) works correctly; I grabbed the latest
from the official site last night and by this morning the dispersion
and offsets were stable.
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:17:15AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Karl Denninger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like ntpd (the new one) works correctly; I grabbed the latest
from the official site last
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:15:13AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
options "P1003_1B"
options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING"
options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L"
Current versions of ntpd use these features if they're available. I
think "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" is the default, so
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:31:25AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Karl Denninger writes:
Yes, and my driftfile had that parameter in there. Uhm, Poul, remember I've
been at this for just a LITTLE while. Xntpd is something I had deployed
back in my *Sun* days
This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE!
Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of STEP changes
instead of what you SHOULD get, which is a slew on the system clock.
The new code (which has a current release date of this month) DOES appear
to work correctly (I'm still
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