Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Rui Paulo
On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:11, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: How would it be in a port? It involves modifying core utilities (some of which, like ifconfig, rely on kernel APIs that change between releases) to emit structured output. Maintaining two copies of each utility, one in the

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Harrison Grundy
On 03/01/15 13:25, Craig Rodrigues wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package , since processing XML in base

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:28:37 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 17:06:24 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:15:05 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:22:43 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package , since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly large set of changes to the sa(4) driver and mt(1) driver that I'm planning to commit in the near future. A description of the changes is here and below in this message. If you have tape hardware

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:40:40 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:28:37 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:22:43 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly large set of changes to the sa(4) driver and mt(1) driver that I'm

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 17:06:24 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly large set of changes to the sa(4) driver and mt(1) driver that I'm

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:15:05 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:22:43 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 17:06:24 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly large set of changes to the sa(4) driver and mt(1) driver that I'm planning to commit in the near future. A description of the

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:28:37 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 17:06:24 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have a fairly

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Allan Jude
On 2015-03-01 19:20, Arseny Nasokin wrote: On 1 March 2015 at 22:10, Allan Jude allanj...@freebsd.org wrote: On 2015-03-01 13:49, Harrison Grundy wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing

Re: HEADS UP: PCI SR-IOV infrastructure has been committed to head

2015-03-01 Thread Jack Vogel
Awesome news my friend. I got distracted with some fire drills this week, but I'll make it a priority to get the ixl changes committed next week. Thanks to you and everyone involved for getting this done. Jack On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Ryan Stone ryst...@gmail.com wrote: I've just

Jenkins build is back to normal : FreeBSD_HEAD #2474

2015-03-01 Thread jenkins-admin
See https://jenkins.freebsd.org/job/FreeBSD_HEAD/2474/changes ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas)
Hello. First, I would be happy to have JSON and XML output about filesystems, users, routes... but I don't like how it makes code of df, w, netstat hard to read/maintain and often broken. I don't think it would be good to continue with this. Maybe the effort should be put to creating new

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas)
How about we allow JSON input on those utils too... Then we get into full-blown hell faster. Hmm... I would like to talk with system using JSON. JSON would be in utils that are or at least function similarly to rm, mv, ls, find, mount, zpool, zfs, geom, mdconfig, tar, df, netstat, ifconfig... (or

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/1/15 4:29 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:11, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: How would it be in a port? It involves modifying core utilities (some of which, like ifconfig, rely on kernel APIs that change between releases) to emit structured output. Maintaining

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 3/1/15 4:57 PM, Harrison Grundy wrote: I like the idea behind this... where I'm running into difficulty is why these bits of functionality need to be combined. What someone does with ifconfig on the command line, versus what someone wants to know about their network interfaces in an XML

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:41:07 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 19:15:05 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2015

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Allan Jude
On 2015-03-01 13:49, Harrison Grundy wrote: Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML without additional utilities anyway. (If I'm

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread David Chisnall
On 1 Mar 2015, at 18:49, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML without additional

Re: sa(4) driver changes available for test

2015-03-01 Thread Dan Langille
On Feb 28, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote: On Feb 28, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 17:29:48 -0500, Dan Langille wrote: On Feb 18, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kenneth D. Merry k...@freebsd.org wrote: I have updated

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 11:26:01 -0500 Allan Jude allanj...@freebsd.org wrote: On 2015-03-01 08:33, Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas) wrote: Hello. First, I would be happy to have JSON and XML output about filesystems, users, routes... but I don't like how it makes code of df, w, netstat hard

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Allan Jude
On 2015-03-01 08:33, Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas) wrote: Hello. First, I would be happy to have JSON and XML output about filesystems, users, routes... but I don't like how it makes code of df, w, netstat hard to read/maintain and often broken. I don't think it would be good to continue

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Steve Kargl
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 11:26:01AM -0500, Allan Jude wrote: On 2015-03-01 08:33, Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas) wrote: Is there a specific bug you are running in to? So far the only bugs I've seen with the xo-ification have been ones where the JSON output was not always well formed. Given the

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Harrison Grundy
On 03/01/15 05:33, Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas) wrote: Hello. First, I would be happy to have JSON and XML output about filesystems, users, routes... but I don't like how it makes code of df, w, netstat hard to read/maintain and often broken. I don't think it would be good to continue

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Rui Paulo
On Mar 1, 2015, at 09:25, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: Due to the lack of XML parsing code in -base, the difficulty in maintaining yet another interface, and the overhead involved in doing it, I don't quite see where one would really want XML output *and* be

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: If someone could summarize what this is, I'd greatly appreciate it. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2014-July/015633.html ___

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Harrison Grundy
Thanks! That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve up JSON or HTML without additional utilities anyway. (If I'm reviving a long-settled thing, let me know and I'll drop

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Harrison Grundy
On 03/01/15 11:11, David Chisnall wrote: On 1 Mar 2015, at 18:49, Harrison Grundy harrison.gru...@astrodoggroup.com wrote: That does seem useful, but I'm not sure I see the reasoning behind putting into base, over a port or package, since processing XML in base is a pain, and it can't serve

Re: Massive libxo-zation that breaks everything

2015-03-01 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mar 1, 2015, at 5:33, Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas) madis...@hot.ee wrote: Hello. First, I would be happy to have JSON and XML output about filesystems, users, routes... but I don't like how it makes code of df, w, netstat hard to read/maintain and often broken. I don't think it would be