Re: ts_to_ct messages; ntp: time correction of -1200 seconds exceeds sanity limit

2010-12-06 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 08:30:11PM -0600, James R. Van Artsdalen wrote: FreeBSD gohorns.x 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r216088: Thu Dec 2 23:20:14 CST 2010 r...@gohorns.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I have been getting a lot of ts_to_ct for months: are we supposed to look

Re: ts_to_ct messages; ntp: time correction of -1200 seconds exceeds sanity limit

2010-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 08:30:11PM -0600, James R. Van Artsdalen wrote: FreeBSD gohorns.x 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r216088: Thu Dec 2 23:20:14 CST 2010 r...@gohorns.x:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I have been getting a lot of

Re: In-kernel PPPoE

2010-12-06 Thread Ian FREISLICH
David Rhodus wrote: Does mpd work in -current ? Last tried I, netgraph had problems with mpd. I have successfully used it on -CURRENT as late as: FreeBSD mini 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #16: Wed Nov 17 07:11:06 SAST 2010 i...@mini:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/APPLE i386 Ian -- Ian

Re: In-kernel PPPoE

2010-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: BTW, there is a rumor that mpd may become an 'in source' program too. It comes 'in source';-) I think last time it came up for base, the package ended up being in the dataset of the release packages and I think that's fine enough. I cannot see any

Re: binutils problem? WAS [Re: static linking error: ELF binary type 0 not known. Exec format error. Binary file not executable.]

2010-12-06 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 12:52:57AM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2010-12-03 10:58, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: a.out: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped ... The branding on ia64 is wrong. The executable is not marked as being a FreeBSD

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing. laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) foreach? time ./testf foreach? end Max ULP: 0.501607 for x in

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing. laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) foreach? time

trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Norikatsu Shigemura
Hi. I tested like following: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- share/mk/bsd.own.mk.orig2010-10-06 12:22:05.747697000 +0900 +++ share/mk/bsd.own.mk 2010-12-06 23:40:59.058632584 +0900 @@ -169,8 +169,8 @@ STRIP?=-s

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:38:30AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing.

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Saturday 04 December 2010 06:12 am, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 04/12/2010 02:38 Jung-uk Kim said the following: If my understanding is correct, your patch uses the dummy timecounter until a real timecounter is chosen. Perhaps this is one way to look at it. But I look at it differently - the

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Alex Kozlov
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression for base man's to bz2 or xz doesn't make much sense. -- Adios RELENG_8 2010-04-26: 4,0M

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=155444 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=155534

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday, December 06, 2010 11:38:30 am Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 09:44:03AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing.

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:35:31PM +0200, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:38:30AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: John, Thanks for the comment. It seems this splitting has become worse (for some definition of worse) in that previously the user time variation was on the

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:01 John Baldwin said the following: Hmm, I wonder if the eventtimer stuff that has gone into HEAD recently could be a factor? It might change when statclock() is called. But I think that that code was committed more than 7-10 days ago, which Steve mentioned. -- Andriy Gapon

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are: http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=155444

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in sys/kern/kern_resource.c. Most important ones are:

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:24:27PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:01 John Baldwin said the following: Hmm, I wonder if the eventtimer stuff that has gone into HEAD recently could be a factor? It might change when statclock() is called. But I think that that code was committed

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older than I'm guessing. It could be upto 4 weeks old because my laptop tends to lag behind the upgrades to my servers. I see.

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:46:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older than I'm guessing. It could be upto 4 weeks old because

Re: coretemp TjMax

2010-12-06 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 12/04/10 13:59, Irakli wrote: Hi, ns# cpucontrol -m 0x1a2 /dev/cpuctl0 MSR 0x1a2: 0x 0x1600 ns# grep GenuineIntel /var/run/dmesg.boot Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6fb Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 11 I didn't

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: I understand that. However, it is not clear to me why you want to pessimize performance of old hardware. If you can convince me old hardware with slow timecounter hardware (e.g., i8254) does not hurt too much, maybe it's okay.

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread Alexander Motin
On 06.12.2010 20:49, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:46:15PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:43 Steve Kargl said the following: The 7-10 days is an estimate. I upgraded world/kernel on Saturday. The previous world/kernel could have been older than I'm guessing. It

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 01:40 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: On Monday 06 December 2010 12:58 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 19:42 Jung-uk Kim said the following: Sigh... Please see the history of calcru() in

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does not hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be resolved from the root, i.e., kern_resouce.c, if possible. But what to resolve there? I just want to always have a stable

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 01:56 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 20:34 Jung-uk Kim said the following: I understand that. However, it is not clear to me why you want to pessimize performance of old hardware. If you can convince me old hardware with slow timecounter hardware (e.g.,

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Alex Kozlov wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression for base man's to bz2 or xz doesn't make much sense. Oh,

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does : not hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be resolved from the root, i.e., kern_resouce.c, if possible.

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 06/12/2010 21:27 Jung-uk Kim said the following: On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it does : not hurt too much. Anyway, this issue should be resolved from

Re: non-invariant tsc and cputicker

2010-12-06 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 06 December 2010 02:38 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 21:27 Jung-uk Kim said the following: On Monday 06 December 2010 02:09 pm, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 06/12/2010 21:01 Jung-uk Kim said the following: :-) Don't get me wrong, I generally agree with you *iff* it : does not

Re: Process accounting/timing has broken recently

2010-12-06 Thread David Xu
John Baldwin wrote: On Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:18:29 pm Steve Kargl wrote: Sometime in the last 7-10 days, some one made a change that has broken process accounting/timing. laptop:kargl[42] foreach i ( 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) foreach? time ./testf foreach? end Max ULP: 0.501607 for x in

Re: coretemp TjMax

2010-12-06 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 12/06/10 12:52, Irakli wrote: Information about this cpu I get from windows coretemp program http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ this is screenshot of this program (new version)

Re: trying to use xz on manuals.

2010-12-06 Thread Tim Kientzle
On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Alex Kozlov wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:03:50AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: .xz smaller than .gz, but effective is about 96.2%:-(. Some time ago I do similar tests. Changing compression for base