Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@nsu.ru wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!) I really dislike pulseaudio and have managed to live without it. Firefox works fine without it. Unfortunately

[head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 07:33:05 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 07:33:05 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
There are a few alternatives to Lightroom available in Ports Collection, you might want to give them a try one day. offtopic: But it does not even come close to Lightroom. Gimp is also not even close to Photoshop. Maybe Pixelmator. But Gimp? The UI and usability is such a mess. But again it's

[head tinderbox] failure on mips/mips

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 07:46:09 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 07:46:09 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

[head tinderbox] failure on mips64/mips

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 07:57:51 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 07:57:51 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-03 Thread David Chisnall
On 3 Apr 2014, at 00:23, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: So less carping and more fixing is needed here. Should be fixed in r264069 - I'm sure Jenkins / Tinderbox will tell me if it isn't... libc now builds for me with gcc and clang. David ___

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 08:09:47 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 08:09:47 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 08:26:18 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 08:26:18 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

[head tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2014-04-03 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-03 08:42:23 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-03 08:42:23 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
Since when is GIMP an alternative to Lightroom? I was talking about raw processors, not raster image manipulators. The opensource alternatives to Lightroom come not close to the original. The _same_ is true for GIMP which is hardly workable and is not more then a nice showcase but its

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-03 Thread Kohji Okuno
From: Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:44:00 +0300 On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:45:43AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Konstantin Belousov wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 15:07 +0300: Well, it's not that its preventing waking up the waiter, but failing

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!) I really dislike pulseaudio and have managed to live without it. Firefox works fine without it. Unfortunately they dropped OSS support a while go, so I now must use alsa, but it works

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:21:34AM +0200, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: Since when is GIMP an alternative to Lightroom? I was talking about raw processors, not raster image manipulators. The opensource alternatives to Lightroom come not close to the original. They maybe not yet a drop-in

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:49:31AM +0200, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: There are a few alternatives to Lightroom available in Ports Collection, you might want to give them a try one day. offtopic: But it does not even come close to Lightroom. Gimp is also not even close to Photoshop. Maybe

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-03 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 08:38:28AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 1 Apr 2014, at 08:11, Jordan Hubbard j...@mail.turbofuzz.com wrote: 1. Power. As you point out, being truly power efficient is a complete top-to-bottom engineering effort and it takes a lot more than just trying to idle the

Re: iwn(4) in -HEAD supporting Centrino Wireless-N 135

2014-04-03 Thread Tom Murphy
Hi, I'm just wondering if you had any time to look at this? I'm happy to test any patches or diffs. Regards, Tom On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:03:20AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: I still don't have any ideas here. I do however want to try hacking the driver to transmit EAPOL frames at the

svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 04/01/14 12:02, Ryan Stone wrote: Author: rstone Date: Tue Apr 1 16:02:02 2014 New Revision: 264011 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/264011 Log: Add support for PCIe ARI With the changes between r264007-264011, my 4-port RocketRAID 640 card in JBOD mode just lost

Re: Call for testers: SNMPv3 support for bsnmpd(1)

2014-04-03 Thread Shteryana Shopova
/libsnmp-v3-auth-20140403-01.diff 2) A bug in decoding string indexes in snmp_target(3), thus causing bsnmpd(1) to not send v3 notifications properly and two missing return statements which could lead to abort() in case of a rollback - this has never worked in the svn tree, I am not sure why the patch

Re: another Make (maybe) problem

2014-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: Warner: This will happen with fmake. I?ve put some safety belts in place in another fix to keep this from tripping people up (and plan on using a similar technique to keep people from hitting the aicasm bug on

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:11 AM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 3 Apr 2014, at 00:23, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: So less carping and more fixing is needed here. Should be fixed in r264069 - I'm sure Jenkins / Tinderbox will tell me if it isn't... libc now builds for

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-03 Thread David Chisnall
On 3 Apr 2014, at 14:26, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:11 AM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 3 Apr 2014, at 00:23, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: So less carping and more fixing is needed here. Should be fixed in r264069 - I'm sure Jenkins

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-03 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:35 AM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 3 Apr 2014, at 14:26, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:11 AM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 3 Apr 2014, at 00:23, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: So less carping and

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-03 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:26:56PM +0900, Kohji Okuno wrote: The done_ev_add case is indeed missed in my patch, thank you for noting. The case of EV_ADD does not need the KN_SCAN workaround, IMO, since the race is possible just by the nature of adding the knote. I think, we should add

Re: another Make (maybe) problem

2014-04-03 Thread Robert Huff
Warner Losh wl...@bsdimp.com writes amd64, I assume? Yes, as per the provided uname. Can you prune down your make.conf to find the minimal line(s) that cause this? Yes, but each run will take about three hours Starting with an empty make.conf,

RE: Call for testers: SNMPv3 support for bsnmpd(1)

2014-04-03 Thread Marciano, Anthony
; stable should be fine; I've uploaded a patch here - http://people.freebsd.org/~syrinx/snmp/libsnmp-v3-auth-20140403-01.diff 2) A bug in decoding string indexes in snmp_target(3), thus causing bsnmpd(1) to not send v3 notifications properly and two missing return statements which could lead

Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread David Wolfskill
Building/installing is fine, and building, installing, and booting stable/9 @r264061 on the same hardware (different slice) is fine. (I didn't rebuild stable/10 this morning, asth only change was to src/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/cmd/zpool/zpool_main.c, and I don't use ZFS. stable/10 works fine on

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, David Wolfskill wrote: And on my laptop, I had no problems (using AHCI). The build machine, though, starts OK, then comes to an inglorious end: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/aacd0s4a [rw]... mountroot: waiting for device /dev/aacd0s4a ... Mounting from

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 04/03/14 12:06, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, David Wolfskill wrote: And on my laptop, I had no problems (using AHCI). The build machine, though, starts OK, then comes to an inglorious end: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/aacd0s4a [rw]... mountroot: waiting for device

Re: svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 04/03/14 08:58, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/01/14 12:02, Ryan Stone wrote: Author: rstone Date: Tue Apr 1 16:02:02 2014 New Revision: 264011 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/264011 Log: Add support for PCIe ARI With the changes between r264007-264011, my 4-port

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread David Wolfskill
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:06:51PM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: ... I'm also having some trouble booting (into single user mode, so as to run the installworld), at r264039 Sympathy That would seem to indicate some hardware problem or timing issues more than a problem with the code

Re: svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:17:13PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/03/14 08:58, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/01/14 12:02, Ryan Stone wrote: Author: rstone Date: Tue Apr 1 16:02:02 2014 New Revision: 264011 URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/264011 Log: Add

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, David Wolfskill wrote: -em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.0.6 port 0x2000-0x203f mem 0xd820-0xd821 irq 54 at device 2.0 on pci3 -em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:2d:32:6a -em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.0.6 port 0x2040-0x207f mem

Re: svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread David Wolfskill
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 07:23:57PM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: ... I think verbose dmesg from failing and running kernel should be good for the start. http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/r264070/ contains: [TXT] boot_diff.txt 03-Apr-2014 09:55 15K [TXT] boot_fail.txt

Re: svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 2014-04-03 12:23, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 12:17:13PM -0400, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/03/14 08:58, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/01/14 12:02, Ryan Stone wrote: Author: rstone Date: Tue Apr 1 16:02:02 2014 New Revision: 264011 URL:

Re: another Make (maybe) problem

2014-04-03 Thread Robert Huff
Warner Losh wl...@bsdimp.com writes Can you prune down your make.conf to find the minimal line(s) that cause this? Yes, but each run will take about three hours Starting with an empty make.conf, Empty make.conf = same result. Where do I look next? 1) I

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Ryan Stone
Can somebody please confirm whether setting hw.pci.enable_ari=0 in the loader fixes the issue or not. That will help me to figure out if the issue is with ARI or if I have somehow broken PCI enumeration in general (I suspect the later). ___

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 04/03/14 14:05, Ryan Stone wrote: Can somebody please confirm whether setting hw.pci.enable_ari=0 in the loader fixes the issue or not. That will help me to figure out if the issue is with ARI or if I have somehow broken PCI enumeration in general (I suspect the later). __

Re: Boot fails @r264070

2014-04-03 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 04/03/14 14:25, Nikolai Lifanov wrote: On 04/03/14 14:05, Ryan Stone wrote: Can somebody please confirm whether setting hw.pci.enable_ari=0 in the loader fixes the issue or not. That will help me to figure out if the issue is with ARI or if I have somehow broken PCI enumeration in general

Bad judgement using chflags

2014-04-03 Thread Joe Nosay
I thought I could clear the .svn directory using chflag -R noschg /usr/src/.svn/* and.. I screwed up my system for svn checkout of CURRENT. Live and learn. Anyway, how do I fix this? Thanks ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Bad judgement using chflags

2014-04-03 Thread Mike Tancsa
chflags 0 will remove the flags ---Mike On 4/3/2014 4:52 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: I thought I could clear the .svn directory using chflag -R noschg /usr/src/.svn/* and.. I screwed up my system for svn checkout of CURRENT. Live and learn. Anyway, how do I fix this? Thanks

Re: svn commits r264007-264011: disks missing

2014-04-03 Thread Ryan Stone
This is fixed in r264091. Apologies for the breakage; it seems to mostly effect legacy PCI devices and my testing was on PCIe-only systems. Thanks to everyone who reported the issue and provided verbose dmesgs; that really helped me to understand the problem.

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-03 Thread Kohji Okuno
From: Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 16:48:14 +0300 On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 06:26:56PM +0900, Kohji Okuno wrote: The done_ev_add case is indeed missed in my patch, thank you for noting. The case of EV_ADD does not need the KN_SCAN workaround, IMO, since the

Re: iwn(4) in -HEAD supporting Centrino Wireless-N 135

2014-04-03 Thread Adrian Chadd
I've had no time to continue looking at this, I'm sorry. I'm very overworked and I'm not able to be both the net80211, ath and iwn maintainer given how much actual attention they all require. Someone has to step up and take command of the iwn code. -a On 3 April 2014 03:02, Tom Murphy

cannot build 9.2 from an 11-current host

2014-04-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Hi all, I've got a build machine that does package builds of net/openafs for upstream OpenAFS, and is supposed to build packages for all supported FreeBSD versions (and a few unsupported ones, too). I've recently updated to r264039M (the 'M' is reverting PCI ARI bits as discussed in a

Re: cannot build 9.2 from an 11-current host

2014-04-03 Thread Ryan Stone
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: Hi all, I've got a build machine that does package builds of net/openafs for upstream OpenAFS, and is supposed to build packages for all supported FreeBSD versions (and a few unsupported ones, too). I've recently updated to

Re: cannot build 9.2 from an 11-current host

2014-04-03 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Ryan Stone wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: Hi all, I've got a build machine that does package builds of net/openafs for upstream OpenAFS, and is supposed to build packages for all supported FreeBSD versions (and a few unsupported