At 10:59 PM 9/24/99 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
As Gary Schrock wrote ...
all mail would still have to go through the local isp's. Personally, I
would immediately unsubscribe to any isp that decided this was acceptable
behavior on their part. I use the mail server at work for all my outgoing
mail. Why? Because the machine is lightly loaded and I don't have to
So, the mailserver at your workplace is an open relay?
No, it's definitely not. I've been using a pop before relay scheme that's
been working fairly nicely. (Although occaisionally the server gets stuck
in a state where it decides it doesn't recognize my pop check and refuses
to relay my mail anyways). Back before sendmail started doing relay
checking by default, I got hit with a spammer relay that so swamped the
server it was immediately noticeable because nothing else was
working. I've been very careful ever since then to make sure servers I'm
responsible for don't leave relaying open. (As a defense, this was back
when this was something that was still relatively new, and there wasn't a
whole lot in the way of information about preventing relaying. These day's
it's a lot easier to fix that problem).
worry about my mail getting lost in the depths of my isp's mail server for
a couple hours because their loads tend to run high. (Hell, I don't
generally even use the email account provided by the local isp because of
load issues, my work account is so much more reliable).
I'd call this the ultimate reason to get another ISP. Not the relaying
stuff.
Why? The last thing I need is another email account, so I don't even *use*
the email stuff from my isp. For everything besides occaisional issues
with the load on their mail servers my isp is pretty good. However, for me
it makes a lot more sense to use hte mail server at work, simply because
that's a machine that's got few users, and I get the instant gratification
of my mail going out immediately.
For what it's worth, to clarify my viewpoint on this issue, I don't really
object to the DUL, and quite honestly, after reading the information about
it, I might even consider enabling it. It's not something that will affect
my mail, because I *do* send the mail through a legit mail server. My
objection is with the idea that an ISP would block my ability to use my
mail host at work by blocking outside access through port 25. Why should
my mail take an hour or two to filter through the local isp when it can go
immediately through work? (And for the argument choose an isp that has a
better mail relayer, that's not always practical. Say you're using adsl or
cable modem, where you might not really have a choice on the isp, are you
really going to give up the faster connection because a mail relay you
don't use happens to be slow? I sure as hell wouldn't).
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