Re: Save a few hunderd kilobytes or a few hundred perl users?

[Hugo van der Sanden]

Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:Johnny Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:
:  perl-5.10.0
:  perl-library-standard-1.0
:  perl-library-ISP-1.0
:  ...
:
:Whatever approach we take, two major problems must be solved to
:accomplish this:
: 1: A perl distribution must be able to be (re)located anywhere and
:use itself as a starting point to find its additional libraries
:and modules.
:The way ActiveState's rpm handles it (by patching the binaries and
:scripts) works, but defeats the rpm functionality to verify an
:installation.
: 2: Add-on modules (base-perl and site-perl) must be able to fit
:themselves into an existing perl installation so they can be
:distributed in prebuilt form.
:
:In short, we need componentized, prebuilt distributions.
:
:Is this being worked on already?

Not that I'm aware; volunteers welcome.

Hugo

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Re: Save a few hunderd kilobytes or a few hundred perl users?

[Hugo van der Sanden]

Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I think Perl should be broken into two pieces: a miniperl distribution
: that is called Perl and a separate Standard Perl Module Library
: distribution.  They would be versioned separately so what's considered part
: of the core Perl language isn't confused with what version of CGI.pm or
: other random module is included with a Perl distribution.  It's clear that
: the modules evolve much faster than Perl's release cycle, so the Perl
: Library distribution could simply be on its release cycle.
:
:I would be _delighted_ with this arrangement! *BSD could use the
:Perl dist, and libraries would be excellent ports-fodder.

This was an issue raised at the perl5-porters meeting during the
conference in San Diego last year. I don't remember the details
precisely - I'm trying to track them down - but as far as I can
recall some consensus was reached that it should in principle be
possible to find a way to offer particular subsets or supersets
of the standard perl installation.

There are some problems to be overcome, not least the social ones
(my ISP won't install CPAN packages), but it may be possible to
overcome some of them by providing installations targeted at
particular domains - 'perl for booting', 'perl for ISPs' etc -
with the same imprimatur as Perl itself. I hope to see some
progress made on this in the 5.10 cycle.

Hugo

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