Re: RFC: getting rid of oldnfs

2014-10-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014, Rick Macklem wrote: Someone just pinged me on this and I figured I should bring it up. 1 - Is anyone out there still using oldnfs due to unresolved problems with the new one? (I am not aware of any outstanding issues in the new nfs that don't exist in the oldnfs.) 2

Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Since initial mail http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2013-October/045911.html did not raise a lot of objection, I'm going to proceed with this. Ditto here -- on the one hand, a shame, and on the other, reality. Remember to also

Re: processes stuck in vmo_de state

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Xin Li wrote: I have recently upgraded my home storage box (Avoton based board running FreeBSD/amd64) from 10.0-RELEASE (patched with some ZFS changes) to -CURRENT. It looks like the system would easily hang when I start 'buildworld', when this happens, I saw sh process

Re: [rfc] migrate lagg to an rmlock

2013-08-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Alexander V. Chernikov wrote: On 24.08.2013 00:54, Adrian Chadd wrote: I'd like to commit this to -10. It migrates the if_lagg locking from a rw lock to a rm lock. We see a bit of contention between the transmit and We're running lagg with rmlock on several hundred

Re: Distributed audit daemon committed (was: svn commit: r243752 - in head: etc etc/defaults etc/mail etc/mtree etc/rc.d share/man/man4 usr.sbin usr.sbin/auditdistd (fwd))

2012-12-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012, O. Hartmann wrote: Does mergemaster -p help? I had the very same problem and complained about it on current@. mergemaster -p definitely helped for me and I was given the advise to use mergemaster -p prior to every make installworld. Just to follow up on this thread,

Distributed audit daemon committed (was: svn commit: r243752 - in head: etc etc/defaults etc/mail etc/mtree etc/rc.d share/man/man4 usr.sbin usr.sbin/auditdistd (fwd))

2012-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
-- Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 15:11:46 + (UTC) From: Robert Watson rwat...@freebsd.org To: src-committ...@freebsd.org, svn-src-...@freebsd.org, svn-src-h...@freebsd.org Subject: svn commit: r243752 - in head: etc etc/defaults etc/mail etc/mtree etc/rc.d share/man/man4 usr.sbin

Re: netisr panic?

2012-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
Panics along these lines often occur if there is a concurrency bug in a device driver such that it modifies an mbuf after dispatching to the network stack. E.g., by freeing it, reusing it, an errant dereference, etc. Not guaranteed, but that is where I'd start. Robert On Sat, 17 Nov 2012,

Re: Adding support for WC (write-combining) memory to bus_dma

2012-07-12 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Ian Lepore wrote: To be clear, I'm not objecting to your proposed changes, I'm more just musing that similar problems exist in non-x86 architectures and maybe an MI solution is possible (or at least the groundwork could be laid)? I was likewise going to comment that

Re: sysctl filesystem ?

2012-06-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Chris Rees wrote: as well as we don't depend of /proc for normal operation we shouldn't for say /proc/sysctl improvements are welcome, better documentation is welcome, changes to what is OK - isn't. /proc/sysctl might be useful. Just because Linux uses it doesn't make

Re: DTrace/MIPS port

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: Last few weeks I've been working on DTrace port for MIPS architecture. I believe that project reached the stage when it's ready for public review/testing before going into the tree. Patch and some information could be found here:

Re: Sleeping thread (tid 100033, pid 16): panic in FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT/amd64 r228662

2011-12-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Attilio Rao wrote: As we are here, however, I have a question for Robert here: do you think we should support the _ddb() variant of options even in the case DDB is not enabled in the kernel? It's possible that _ddb() should be spelled _unlocked(), or perhaps _debug(),

Call to arms: MPSAFE file systems (was: Re: Removal of Giant from the VFS layer for 10.0)

2011-09-12 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Attilio Rao wrote: With the aid of kib and rwatson I made a roughly outlined plan about what is left to do in order to have all the filesystems locked (or eventually dropped) before 10.0) and is summarized here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/NONMPSAFE_DEORBIT_VFS Here's a

nroff -mandoc | more no longer works

2011-08-14 Thread Robert Watson
I'm guessing this relates to nroff/groff tweaks, but I was a bit unhappy to learn that the command I've used for the last decade to render man pages while editing them (nroff -mandoc foo.1 | more) no longer works (output below). It seems likely this has to do with teaching groff to use ANSI

Re: buildworld failure

2011-08-14 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Kip Macy wrote: The module makefile needs to be updated evidently. Just add it to the dependencies until rwatson gets around to fixing it. Building modules with world is pretty uncommon (I assume that's what is going on here -- MODULES_WITH_WORLD), so it looks like we

Avoid kernels between r224778 and r224841; bug causes buildworld failure

2011-08-14 Thread Robert Watson
Dear all: As you may have seen from current@ traffic, a bug crept in during the Capsicum merge, introduced by the infamous Last Minute Cleanup and not caught in pre-commit testing. The most noticed effect of the bug is to cause buildworld to fail due to a problem with

Re: buildworld failure

2011-08-14 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 14 Aug 2011, Alexander Best wrote: has anybody seen this buildworld failure? Could you try the attached patch and see if it helps? I currently have it in the re@ approval queue. It does appear to fix the problem here. Generally, I would strongly advise against using modules

Re: FYI: merging TCP, UDP, netisr locking changes

2011-05-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 24 May 2011, Robert Watson wrote: Over the next few days, I will be merging a number of TCP-related locking changes, as well as changes to various network stack infrastructure bits, such as the netisr implementation. The goal, generally, has been to move us in the direction

FYI: merging TCP, UDP, netisr locking changes

2011-05-24 Thread Robert Watson
Dear all: Over the next few days, I will be merging a number of TCP-related locking changes, as well as changes to various network stack infrastructure bits, such as the netisr implementation. The goal, generally, has been to move us in the direction of supporting more clear CPU affinity for

Capsicum merge in progress (was: Re: Capsicum -- 9.x merge in sight)

2011-03-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, Robert Watson wrote: Jon and my current plan is to merge, over the next few months, various kernel features required to support Capscium sandboxing for FreeBSD 9.0: first capability mode support (this week), then capabilities themselves (which are a form of file

Re: DTrace Broken?

2011-02-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, Shawn Webb wrote: Hey fellow current users, Looks like dtrace is broken in current: # dtrace -l -f acl dtrace: invalid probe specifier acl: /usr/lib/dtrace/psinfo.d, line 37: syntax error near uid_t Error messages along these lines almost always mean that the kernel

Re: Ethernet Drivers: Question on Sending Received Packets to the FreeBSD Network Stack

2011-02-04 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/3/11 10:08 AM, David Somayajulu wrote: Hi All, While sending the Received Ethernet Frames (non - LRO case) to the FreeBSD Network Stack via (struct ifnet *)-if_input((struct ifnet *), (struct *mbuf)); Is it possible to send multiple Ethernet

Re: TCP resident expert?

2011-01-16 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, William Allen Simpson wrote: Who's the kernel expert on TCP around here? ISC wants me to port TCPCT to FreeBSD. Although I've joined this list (some time ago), I've not seen any traffic discussing TCP'ish things. Need somebody willing to walk me through the processes

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2010-12-22 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, Mike Tancsa wrote: I think Tinderbox has a bad source tree. Lines 557 and 569 make sense from the old version of kern_fail.c before either of my commits. So is Tinderbox somehow building with an old kern_fail.c but an updated sys/fail.h? That would explain the build

Re: www/chromium crashing whole system

2010-11-13 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Alexander Best wrote: i tried detaching and attaching my keyboard after chromium crashed my system and the lights of the keyboard didn't even went on. so in fact everything crashed and not just X. If I said it unclear, let me repeat, the usermode crash dump you got

Re: www/chromium crashing whole system

2010-11-13 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Garrett Cooper wrote: Isn't there also DEADLKRES that might be helpful in this case (if Alex is really dealing with a livelock in the kernel)...? The deadlock resolver is compiled into the GENERIC kernel on -CURRENT, so I'm assuming it hasn't helped (or perhaps is

Re: DTrace bindings are missing in FreeBSD 9.0 - CURRENT for userland apps

2010-10-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Rui Paulo wrote: you think adding pgsql to wheel might help? cc freebsd-security@ and see their opinion about the topic. dof needs to inject the probes in /dev/dtrace/helper, so the user needs rw access to the /dev/dtrace/helper. I specifically added write access to the

Re: [PATCH] Netdump for review and testing -- preliminary version

2010-10-15 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Attilio Rao wrote: No, what I'm saying is: UMA needs to not call its drain handlers, and ideally not call into VM to fill slabs, from the dumping context. That's easy to implement and will cause the dump to fail rather than causing the system to hang. My point is,

Re: [PATCH] Netdump for review and testing -- preliminary version

2010-10-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Attilio Rao wrote: GENERAL FRAMEWORK ARCHITECTURE Netdump is composed, right now, by an userland server and a kernel client. The former is run on the target machine (where the dump will phisically happen) and it is responsible for receiving  the packets containing

Re: MAXCPU preparations

2010-09-28 Thread Robert Watson
. Agreed. I'm fairly preoccupied currently, but would be happy to accept patches :-). Robert - Joshua On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Robert Watson rwat...@freebsd.org wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, John Baldwin wrote: Also, I think we should either fix MAXCPU to export the SMP value

Re: netisr software flowid

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Artemiev Igor wrote: What is the status for software flowid calculation? I found the old netisr2 patch[1] from Robert Watson and took from there code for setting flowid in tcp_input with some changes[2]. It work for me very well (8.1-stable) - now the server can handle

Re: MAXCPU preparations

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Scott Long wrote: There's no reason not to include sys/param.h. I'm a little reluctant to have it depend on the static MAXCPU definition, though. What happens when you mix-and match userland and kernel and they no longer agree on the definition of MAXCPU? I suggest

Re: MAXCPU preparations

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Sean Bruno wrote: wouldn't it be better to do a sysctlbyname() and use the real value for the system? libmemstat contains some useful sample code showing how this might be done. That was my initial thought (as prodded by scottl and peter). If it is made dynamic, could

Re: MAXCPU preparations

2010-09-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, John Baldwin wrote: Also, I think we should either fix MAXCPU to export the SMP value to userland, or hide it from userland completely. Exporting the UP value is Just Wrong (tm). Well, it's useful in the sense that it tells you what the maximum number of CPUs a kernel

Re: Bumping MAXCPU on amd64?

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Maxim Sobolev wrote: On 9/22/2010 6:37 AM, John Baldwin wrote: Unfortunately this can't be MFC'd to 7 as it would destroy the ABI for existing klds. Ah, ok, sorry, I did only check RELENG_7. Can we make it a kernel option then? In principle, yes, but MAXCPU is used

Re: RFC: pefs - stacked cryptographic filesystem

2010-09-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Gleb Kurtsou wrote: I would like to ask for feedback on a kernel level stacked cryptographic filesystem. It has started as Summer Of Code'2009 project and matured a lot since then. I've recently added support for sparse files and switched to XTS encryption mode. I've

Re: At r212060, but /usr/bin/drace and /usr/sbin/lockstat still depend on libz.so.5

2010-09-06 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, jhell wrote: After r210693, these utilities are built for i386 and amd64 only. Thereby you have stale binaries installed from older sources. Lol this is the first I have read about this comes as quite the surprise that its not being built on top of the platform/arch that

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Garrett Cooper wrote: I personally would much rather have the glue in place to switch between compilers and have things default to the base version of gcc than just magically switch the compiler over to clang. But I like my bikesheds painted gray. Calling that a

Re: SUJ and mount reporting

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, John Baldwin wrote: MNT_* flags need to be deprecated, and the attributes passed in both directions as key-value pairs. I don't know if anyone else has thought about this and what it means for backwards compatibility. My understanding of nmount() is that that is what it

Re: BSDCan Toolchain Summit Summary

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Brooks Davis wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 11:15:26AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: Brooks Davis bro...@freebsd.org writes: http://wiki.freebsd.org/201005ToolchainSummitSummary No new functionality that requires clang/llvm. How about No new functionality with

Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD

2010-05-31 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 31 May 2010, Scott Long wrote: On May 31, 2010, at 3:56 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: My personal opinion is that pushing the import now at the present state of clang makes a disservice to FreeBSD, and possible clang. Why not keep the glue on the branch as it is ? Motivated testers

^T reports negative real time...

2010-05-30 Thread Robert Watson
rob...@cinnamon-freebsd:~/freebsd/svncommit/base/projects/capabilities8 svn update At revision 208660. load: 0.13 cmd: svn 5129 [select] -1.66r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 22504k Annoying enough that svn is hanging indefinitely here, but the negative runtime makes it worse :-). The process is alive,

Re: Switchover to CAM ATA?

2010-04-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, M. Warner Losh wrote: I've read most of this thread. I think this is cool technology. However, before we move forward with this, we need to have a plan for the various issues that have come up. The plan needs to be specific, have owners for key items, warnings about

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Robert Watson wrote: In file included from /src/sys/fs/coda/coda_fbsd.c:49: /src/sys/fs/coda/cnode.h:97: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'CodaFid' /src/sys/fs/coda/cnode.h:199: error: expected ')' before '*' token Sorry all -- I'll commit a fix

Re: HEADS-UP: WITH_CTF now picked up from src.conf/make.conf/kernel-config

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Alexander Leidinger wrote: from r206082 on: $Subject Make sure to read UPDATING (short: make sure there is no WITH_CTF in src.conf or make.conf). Once any fallout from this has sorted itself out, assuming no serious objections, and pending appropriate make universe foo,

Re: Results of BIND RFC

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The result of the RFC was that bind is not a mandatory component to make a usable system, so you argument suffers from bad logic. With an eye on the date of Doug's suggestive e-mail, I actually am concerned that we maintain support for DNSSEC

Re: HEADSUP: zlib updated [svn commit: r205471 - in head: . lib/libz lib/libz/contrib lib/libz/doc sys/sys]

2010-03-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote: A MFC of this update is planned, but we will have to make some rather aggressive changes against the library and more testing. Please make sure that you have at least libxml2-2.7.6_2 in your ports tree before even thinking about updating your ports tree.

Survey results very helpful, thanks! (was: Re: net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?)

2010-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Robert Watson wrote: If your system shows a non-zero value, please send me a *private e-mail* with the output of that command, plus also the output of sysctl kern.smp, uptime, and a brief description of the workload and network interface configuration. For example: it's

Re: Survey results very helpful, thanks! (was: Re: net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?)

2010-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Doug Hardie wrote: I run a number of 4 core systems with em interfaces. These are production systems that are unmanned and located a long way from me. Under unusual conditions it can take up to 6 hours to get there. I have been waiting to switch to 8.0 because of the

net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?

2010-03-07 Thread Robert Watson
Dear all: I'm embarking on some new network stack locking work, which requires me to address a number of loose ends in the current model. A few years ago, my attention was drawn to a largly theoretical race, which had existed in the BSD code since inception. It is detected and handled in

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, David O'Brien wrote: No, not it isn't. Provide a script to convert path's in the diff. This is what $LARGE_FREEBSD_USER did when it rearranged it source tree. It was done by creating a copy of the CVS repo and moved files around. Old releases stayed in the old repo, and

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote: One good thing (in my opinion) that NetBSD and Darwin have is that they have a common tree which holds the common files that shared between kernel and userland libc. Currently we have 2 or more copies of certain files in the tree but I'm not sure if it's a

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, paradox wrote: so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult to move a few folders in the shared folder is a big problem as is done in openbsd and netbsd http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/arch/?only_with_tag=MAIN

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050912340.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso n writes: Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for anyone with large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule that out outright. I

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote: On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote: consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? These and other companies contribute significantly

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050940290.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso n writes: [...] it's that changes in layout come with a less visible but much larger cost than svn mv. Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ? Yes,

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote: thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using our 'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and employing FreeBSD

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: === usr.bin/systat (all) cc -O -pipe -DINET6 -std=gnu99 -Wno-pointer-sign -c /src/usr.bin/systat/cmds.c cc -O -pipe -DINET6 -std=gnu99 -Wno-pointer-sign -c /src/usr.bin/systat/cmdtab.c In file included from /src/usr.bin/systat/extern.h:39,

Re: panic ia64 r204293

2010-02-25 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Giovanni Trematerra wrote: Try to boot with GENERIC kernel. I think this is no problem because SMP is already turned on in GENERIC kernel. yes, my fault, I copied the kernel config file from my other UP box. All is well now. In fact, my fault. I had a bug in three

Re: PANIC: PAGE FAULT

2003-12-03 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Ganbaa wrote: I'm trying to install FreeBSD-5.1 on the PC with PIII,512MB SDRAM, 30GB Barracuda II Model ST330630A. But following error has occured. We're in the throes of preparing FreeBSD 5.2 for release, which includes a large number of bug fixes (although potentially

panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started

2003-12-03 Thread Robert Watson
Ran into this on a box with -CURRENT from yesterday, running with MAC (although in this case I suspect it doesn't make a difference, I'm not using the multilabel/extattr code in UFS2). I have a core on disk, so please let me know what further information would be useful. This machine spends a

Re: -current lockup (how to diagnose?)

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jun Kuriyama wrote: I got lockups in recent -current box. This box is my main workstation and usually be up to date kernel. In recent days, I usually locked up. This is not a panic, only locks up. My situation is: o KDE's clock is working. o KDE's virtual

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
on | || || a lock. Fixing | || || this requires| | rpc.lockd(8) | In progress | Robert Watson | that the RPC | | stability | || code be taught

Re: NSS and PAM

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Jacques A. Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By `the two', do you mean directory services and authentication? They are certainly not `essentially one'. But I suspect you know this and I am just misunderstanding your meaning. They are

panic during shutdown from vfs_umountall()

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
Running with a MAC kernel, about to try booting identical but non-MAC; I'm not able to reproduceit , however. bgfsck may have been running during the shutdown. Apparently the device vnode for /usr is vrele()'d one too many times at some point during the run, resulting in a panic. This is with

Re: -current lockup (how to diagnose?)

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Jun Kuriyama wrote: At Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:23:21 -0500 (EST), Robert Watson wrote: This could be a sign of a VM or VFS lock leak or deadlock. I'd advise hooking up a serial console, dropping to DDB over serial line, and posting the results of ps and show lockedvnods

Re: user:sys time ratio

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Colin Percival wrote: I've got a system running 5.2-BETA from 27/11/03, with the malloc_abort, malloc_junk, DEBUG=-g, DDB, INVARIANT*, and WITNESS* debugging options changed (as was done in 5.1-RELEASE). When running `make buildworld`, I see large amounts of sys

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and starts it very early. Hmm. I talked with Gordon

Re: SiI3112 SATA controller problems - status

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 09:43, HaggeL wrote: Hi Guys :) Sorry if i waste your time. I®m a freeBSD noob and need some help. I want to install freeBSD in januar and have some problems. I want to buy me a new harddrive, a serial ATA one,

Re: user:sys time ratio

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Jeff Roberson wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Colin Percival wrote: Robert Watson suggested that I compare performance from UP and SMP kernels: # /usr/bin/time -hl sh -c 'make -s buildworld 21' /dev/null Real UserSys UP

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: snip For 5.2-RELEASE, I think we should ignore the whole issue and let the couple of ports that insert things in /etc/rc.d just do it. We're not going to find any other solution in time to either close

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: (2) Reevaluate the order at routine points in the boot where new scripts might now be available (due to file system mounts or whatever). Essentially insert the new cards into the deck, and shuffle. This requires rethinking of our

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
to | | | | | improve the | | | | | consistency of the| | MAC Framework | | | pathnames passed into | | devfs path | In progress | Robert Watson | the MAC Framework | | fixes

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
[NOTE: This is being resent due to a cvs update error that caused an un-updated version of the TODO list to be sent out earlier] This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2 open issues list. The live version of this list is available at:

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: [NOTE: This is being resent due to a cvs update error that caused an un-updated version of the TODO list to be sent out earlier

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
on | || || a lock. Fixing | || || this requires| | rpc.lockd(8) | In progress | Robert Watson | that the RPC | | stability | || code be taught

Re: Upgrade experience 5.1p10-5.2 Beta

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Justin Smith wrote: Are you running with GENERIC from 5.2-BETA? If so, you may wish to recompile your kernel with WITNESS and INVARIANTS turned off and see if that helps. These debugging features are critical during the development process, but also seriously impact

installworld to DESTDIR: touch: not found

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
I'm in the throes of updating my diskless boot boxes to 5.2-BETA from my 5.1-CURRENT build box. I did a buildworld, and am now doing an installworld to a DESTDIR. cboss# make installworld DESTDIR=/cboss/devel/nfsroot/crash2.cboss.tislabs.com/ ...

Re: installworld to DESTDIR: touch: not found

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Kent Stewart wrote: This kind of error frequently happens when your clock is off. Make thinks the date of the cvsuped source is newer than the file it created and tries to create it again. Do you run cmos at UTC or local. If local, did you adjkerntz -i. A few people

Re: Losing ld-elf.so.1 while make installworld, system shrotted

2003-11-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Oliver Fischer wrote: Steve Kargl wrote: Did you do make buildkernel, make installkernel , and mergemaster in the order specified in src/UPDATING. :0 Until now I have been doing it always in the wrong order... Thanks, now I will try it in the right order.

Re: no /dev/dsp.x

2003-11-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, T Kellers wrote: I can't ssh to the laptop at this moment, but if the sound card is not detected by the kernel, can I force the detection by editing /boot/ loader.conf with: userconfig_script_load=YES snd_maestro3_load=YES ? I have that in loader.conf on an

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this same pattern. Terry, what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything dynamically linked in darwin ? Has anyone

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: I don't know what Matt is planning on delivering, but... http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/opendirectory/ [...] lookupd is included with the Darwin project and is documented online in Apple's Support database and as

Re: panic in fridays current

2003-11-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Divacky Roman wrote: I upgraded from 5.1-RELEASE to current from 21st Nov about 10am CET... after make world+kernel I noticed one kernel panic - I was working for about 45 minutes then loaded if_ep module, then it crashed... (after a short while) 28 ?? WL 0:04.61

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: MOST people uses /bin/sh only for rc scripts (to be correct, their system uses it). David O'Brien just tried to told, that NOBODY he knows will be REALLY impacted by performance loss, caused due dynamic /bin/sh linking. You will... So, because

Re: 5.2-BETA lockup

2003-11-23 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Matt Smith wrote: Since updating two of my machines to the latest HEAD I am experiencing a total lockup on one of them. After being booted for approx 3 minutes the machine stops responding completely. It doesn't panic or drop into DDB. The numlock key doesn't

Re: Help request: problems with a 5.1 server and large numbers of ssh users.

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Len Sassaman wrote: It is my intuition from this behavior that the sshd master process listening for connections is unable to spawn a new process to complete the authentication step, and thus the connection is being dropped. There is no information of use in dmesg, nor

Re: Help request: problems with a 5.1 server and large numbers of ssh users.

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Ken Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 10:56:08AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: Hmm. Well, it certainly sounds like a resource limit to me, especially if it's a nice round number like 150 or 300. One possibility might be running out of pseudo-terminals to support

Re: another trap 12 while in kernel mode

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: I am regularly getting those but unfortunately I neither have DDB in that kernel nor can get a crash dump nor do I have built wie DEBUG=-g. Is there anything more I can do apart from rebuilding kernel with support of all the missing debugging

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Ok, here's the final patch. I believe it fixes both problems. Success! The system rebooted without panicking. It even came back up cleanly. :-) In an earlier e-mail, you asked me for dmesg output. I've attached it on the off chance you still want

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Ok, here's the final patch. I believe it fixes both problems. Success! The system rebooted without panicking. It even came back up cleanly. :-) Good

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: set init_path=/rescue/init If dynamic root were ready to be turned on, then /rescue/init would be in the default init_path. The fallback path only works if the exec() fails cleanly without actually

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Nov 19), Richard Coleman said: I don't really care whether everything is statically or dynamically linked. With the fast machines and huge disks these days, bloat is not much of an issue. But nss and pam need to work

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add a detach method that disables entry to acpi_cpu_idle and in the SMP case, IPIs all processors to exit

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be a certain 'coolness' WRT dynamically linking everything, but the overhead is certainly measurable. If the object is to maximally 'share', then for shells the FreeBSD VM shares maximally without using shared libs (perhaps there is a

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Schultz wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003, Robert Watson wrote: (2) Shells again, because they will be fork()d and exec()d frequently during heavily scripted activities, such as system boot, periodic events, large make jobs, etc. And presumably the only shell

Re: Panic after mount() fail.

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: Hello. There is a problem with mount(2) failures. It can cause panics. How-to-repeat. # dd if=/dev/random of=/test.img bs=1m count=8 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /test.img -u 25 # mkdir -p /mnt/test # mount

Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Jens Rehsack wrote: after I updated my machine yesterday to the -CURRENT src/ and ports/ of yesterday (2003-11-15 10:30 GMT), build kernel and world as described in Kirks HEADSUP mail and rebuild all ports, my machine always crashes when I start X. My problem is,

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Julian Stacey wrote: Richard Coleman wrote: But I think the time for these discussions is passed. current@ is only a concensus of /usr/src developers. /usr/src /usr/ports/ users on hackers@ ports@ isp@ may not have seen current@'s change ? that may make later net

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