Re: /lib/foo.so.X -> /usr/lib/foo.so

2003-09-04 Thread Mark Kettenis
   Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:10:50 -0700
   From: "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:27:15PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
   > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:58:39PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
   > [...]
   > > The patch is not a problem (attached).  I've been looking at
   > > how our friends do this.  NetBSD has symlinks in /usr/lib to
   > > /lib, both to .so and .so.X, and their cc(1) and ld(1) don't
   > > look things in /lib.  Linux looks things up in both /lib and
   > > /usr/lib, and does not have symlinks from /usr/lib to /lib.
   > > 
   > There is a sad typo above: Linux *does* have symlinks from
   > /usr/lib to /lib, so both use /usr/lib for linking.

   What version of Linux are you using?  SuSE Enterprise Linux 8, and Red
   Hat Enterprise Linux 3 both do not have symlinks for libs from /usr/lib
   to /lib.  They use a different machanism:


   suse# cat /usr/lib/libc.so
   /* GNU ld script
  Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
  the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
   GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )

Speaking as a (former) glibc developer (a true convert nowadays):

Well, libc is a special case since there are a few functions that
aren't provided by the shared libc, but are always linked statically.
Linux does this to be compatible with the System V ABI.

The whole thing is actually pointless since most interfaces in libc.so
aren't compatible with the System V ABI, so it's nothing but a
historical fart nowadays.

Anyway, I think you'll see a symlink for /usr/lib/libm.so.  At least
my SuSE Linux 8.2 does have it.

Mark


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Re: /lib/foo.so.X -> /usr/lib/foo.so

2003-09-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 04), David O'Brien said:
> On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:27:15PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:58:39PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The patch is not a problem (attached).  I've been looking at how
> > > our friends do this.  NetBSD has symlinks in /usr/lib to /lib,
> > > both to .so and .so.X, and their cc(1) and ld(1) don't look
> > > things in /lib.  Linux looks things up in both /lib and /usr/lib,
> > > and does not have symlinks from /usr/lib to /lib.
> > > 
> > There is a sad typo above: Linux *does* have symlinks from /usr/lib
> > to /lib, so both use /usr/lib for linking.
> 
> What version of Linux are you using?  SuSE Enterprise Linux 8, and
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 both do not have symlinks for libs from
> /usr/lib to /lib.  They use a different machanism:

I haven't updated in a while, but my Debian unstable box has ..

$ find /usr/lib/*.so -type l -ls | grep "> /lib" | wc -l
24

.. symlinks back to /lib. 

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Re: /lib/foo.so.X -> /usr/lib/foo.so

2003-09-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:27:15PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:58:39PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> [...]
> > The patch is not a problem (attached).  I've been looking at
> > how our friends do this.  NetBSD has symlinks in /usr/lib to
> > /lib, both to .so and .so.X, and their cc(1) and ld(1) don't
> > look things in /lib.  Linux looks things up in both /lib and
> > /usr/lib, and does not have symlinks from /usr/lib to /lib.
> > 
> There is a sad typo above: Linux *does* have symlinks from
> /usr/lib to /lib, so both use /usr/lib for linking.

What version of Linux are you using?  SuSE Enterprise Linux 8, and Red
Hat Enterprise Linux 3 both do not have symlinks for libs from /usr/lib
to /lib.  They use a different machanism:


suse# cat /usr/lib/libc.so
/* GNU ld script
   Use the shared library, but some functions are only in
   the static library, so try that secondarily.  */
GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a )

 
> Not that I'm completely happy with introducing yet another
> variable in bsd.lib.mk, but the attached patch:
> 
> - Leaves only one set of .so symlinks in /usr/lib.
> 
>   Benefits: all other systems that use both /lib and /usr/lib
>   (that I've been able to test) have .so links in /usr/lib
>   only, and use them for linking; GCC in ports will like this
>   better.
> 
> - Uses absolute paths in .so symlinks.
> 
>   Benefit: works for people who have their /usr symlinked
>   somewhere.

A true benefit.
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/lib/foo.so.X -> /usr/lib/foo.so

2003-09-04 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:58:39PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
[...]
> The patch is not a problem (attached).  I've been looking at
> how our friends do this.  NetBSD has symlinks in /usr/lib to
> /lib, both to .so and .so.X, and their cc(1) and ld(1) don't
> look things in /lib.  Linux looks things up in both /lib and
> /usr/lib, and does not have symlinks from /usr/lib to /lib.
> 
There is a sad typo above: Linux *does* have symlinks from
/usr/lib to /lib, so both use /usr/lib for linking.

> The only reason while I still think we should support both
> /lib and /usr/lib in cc(1) and ld(1) by default is to allow
> our users to have /usr symlinked somethere, otherwise relative
> symlinking from /usr/lib to ../../lib does not work, and we
> are back to that endless thread.
> 
Not that I'm completely happy with introducing yet another
variable in bsd.lib.mk, but the attached patch:

- Leaves only one set of .so symlinks in /usr/lib.

  Benefits: all other systems that use both /lib and /usr/lib
  (that I've been able to test) have .so links in /usr/lib
  only, and use them for linking; GCC in ports will like this
  better.

- Uses absolute paths in .so symlinks.

  Benefit: works for people who have their /usr symlinked
  somewhere.

- Works without any more modifications to GCC.  ld(1)
  hacks can go away too.

Please review.


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Index: Makefile.inc1
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RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v
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diff -u -r1.389 Makefile.inc1
--- Makefile.inc1   1 Sep 2003 06:43:24 -   1.389
+++ Makefile.inc1   4 Sep 2003 19:30:19 -
@@ -227,6 +227,7 @@
 # world stage
 WMAKEENV=  ${CROSSENV} \
DESTDIR=${WORLDTMP} \
+   SHLIBDIRPREFIX=${WORLDTMP} \
INSTALL="sh ${.CURDIR}/tools/install.sh" \
PATH=${TMPPATH}
 WMAKE= ${WMAKEENV} ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc1
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RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk,v
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diff -u -r1.153 bsd.lib.mk
--- share/mk/bsd.lib.mk 4 Sep 2003 04:29:11 -   1.153
+++ share/mk/bsd.lib.mk 4 Sep 2003 19:34:08 -
@@ -208,9 +208,10 @@
${_INSTALLFLAGS} ${_SHLINSTALLFLAGS} \
${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${SHLIBDIR}
 .if defined(SHLIB_LINK)
-   ln -fs ${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${SHLIBDIR}/${SHLIB_LINK}
-.if (${LIBDIR} != ${SHLIBDIR})
-   ln -fs ${LIBDIR:C|/[^/]+|/..|g:S|^/||}${SHLIBDIR}/${SHLIB_NAME} \
+.if ${SHLIBDIR} == ${LIBDIR}
+   ln -fs ${SHLIB_NAME} ${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/${SHLIB_LINK}
+.else
+   ln -fs ${SHLIBDIRPREFIX}${SHLIBDIR}/${SHLIB_NAME} \
${DESTDIR}${LIBDIR}/${SHLIB_LINK}
 .endif
 .endif


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