Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-10 Thread Kai Großjohann

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 You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply
 refuse to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and
 indirect (and more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and
 sensibilities.

The answer `run mergemaster' will work for the next, similar,
problem.  The answer you gave won't work for anything but ssh.

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sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Bill Woods

I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.

I do have the crypto sources also.

Thanks

Bill



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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Oscar Bonilla

On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 08:52:22AM -0800, Bill Woods wrote:
 I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
 I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
 system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.
 
 I do have the crypto sources also.
 

did you run mergemaster after the make world?

regards,

-oscar

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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the 1st
time use of ssh on this system.

On 07-Mar-00 Oscar Bonilla wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 08:52:22AM -0800, Bill Woods wrote:
 I just finished a make world for -current todayd cvsup. All went well but
 I was planning on setting up ssh between my home systems and aneother
 system on the net, but I find there are no config files in /etc/ssh.
 
 I do have the crypto sources also.
 
 
 did you run mergemaster after the make world?
 
 regards,
 
 -oscar
 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Jay Oliver

Regardless, without using mergemaster, the NEW config files will never have
gotten placed into /etc
Make world does not in and of itself in any way touch those configuration
files.

- Jay Oliver

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 No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the
1st
 time use of ssh on this system.





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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?

On 07-Mar-00 Jay Oliver wrote:
 Regardless, without using mergemaster, the NEW config files will never have
 gotten placed into /etc
 Make world does not in and of itself in any way touch those configuration
 files.
 
 - Jay Oliver
 
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 From: "William Woods" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 1:34 PM
 Subject: Re: sshd in currentno config files in /etc/ssh
 
 
 No, I dident. I dident have old ssh (the port one) to merge. This is the
 1st
 time use of ssh on this system.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Steve Kargl

William Woods wrote:
 OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
 mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?
 

man mergemaster

If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
"diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
to merge...

This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd

/etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  

the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...

On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
 William Woods wrote:
 OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
 mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?
 
 
 man mergemaster
 
 If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
 "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
  
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Matt Heckaman

That is what mergemaster does, it places everything you could ever need in
a temporary root, diffs it against /etc, merges anything existing, tells
you if there is a file that you do not have, you answer 'i' and it installs
the default file. 

Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
back for that program.

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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:31:26 -0500
: From: William Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: To: Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: Subject: Re: sshd in currentno config files in /etc/ssh
: 
: Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
: to merge...
: 
: This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd
: 
: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
: 
: the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
: 
: On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
:  William Woods wrote:
:  OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
:  mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?
:  
:  
:  man mergemaster
:  
:  If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
:  "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
:   
:  -- 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Steve Kargl

troutmask:root[204] locate sshd_config
/usr/local/etc/sshd_config
/usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config

man locate
man 8 sshd


William Woods wrote:
 Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
 to merge...

I don't see you making that statement below.  You said "OK, well,
I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?"

"man mergemaster" will familiarize you with the command.
"diff ..." is how you might start to do it by hand.

If a file does not appear to exist (oh, ah, such as /etc/sshd_config),
try RTFM.

 
 This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd
 
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
 
 the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
 
 On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
  William Woods wrote:
  OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
  mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?
  
  
  man mergemaster
  
  If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
  "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
   
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread FreeBSD mailing list

I did the following to manually set up ssh after the world build:

cp /usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh

It's as simple as that.  Then when you reboot next, the host key
will be regenerated by /etc/rc.network, provided you updated that from 
/usr/src/etc as well.  If you don't want to wait until reboot
to start sshd, do:

/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key

This is the command used by /etc/rc.network.

It Worked For Me.

You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and
more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and sensibilities.

There is absolutely no reason why you can't submit the help, with 
suggestion toward ones perception of "the Right Way" to do it, 
rather than beat the issue to death with superior posturing.

Pursue your Ideal Methodologies, but try some constructiveness rather
than the Attitudes of the Norm common on other development lists.

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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

ThanksI used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.

error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
directory 


On 07-Mar-00 Matt Heckaman wrote:
 That is what mergemaster does, it places everything you could ever need in
 a temporary root, diffs it against /etc, merges anything existing, tells
 you if there is a file that you do not have, you answer 'i' and it installs
 the default file. 
 
 Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
 handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
 very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
 back for that program.
 
 Matt
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 On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:
 
: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:31:26 -0500
: From: William Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED],
:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: sshd in currentno config files in /etc/ssh
: 
: Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is
: nothing
: to merge...
: 
: This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd
: 
: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
: 
: the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...
: 
: On 07-Mar-00 Steve Kargl wrote:
:  William Woods wrote:
:  OK, well, I useally merge files by hand because I am not familiar with
:  mergemaster..how would I do this by hand?
:  
:  
:  man mergemaster
:  
:  If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
:  "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"
:   
:  -- 
:  Steve
: 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

 ThanksI used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
 I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.
 
 error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
 directory 

It will be created for you next time you boot, or you can do it by hand
(man ssh-keygen)..

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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

Thank you...

On 07-Mar-00 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:
 
 ThanksI used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the
 files
 I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.
 
 error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
 directory 
 
 It will be created for you next time you boot, or you can do it by hand
 (man ssh-keygen)..
 
 Kris
 
 
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread R Joseph Wright

On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, William Woods wrote:

 Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
 to merge...
 
 This is the eror I get when trying to run ssdd
 
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config: No such file or directory  
 
 the file sshd_config does not exist on my system to merge...

That's because it's not under /etc until *after* you've run
mergemaster.  Right now it's sitting in /var/tmp/tmproot/etc.



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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Jake Burkholder

 ThanksI used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the files
 I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.
 
 error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
 directory 

If you want to track current you must use mergemaster.
This is probably because you haven't updated rc.network...

case ${sshd_enable} in
[Yy][Ee][Ss])
if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ]; then
echo ' creating ssh host key';
/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
fi
;;
esac

My host key was generated automatically when I rebooted and I was
quite impressed.

Just type 'mergemaster' as root.  It's interactive and doesn't overwrite
anything automatically.



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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread William Woods

Thanks,

I had been doing things manually for a while now. I dod look at mergemaster and
used it for ssh and it worked well. I am planning on investigating it more
later on today.

On 07-Mar-00 Jake Burkholder wrote:
 ThanksI used that "i" option and it worked...well, almost. I have the
 files
 I need in /etc/ssh but when I start sshd I get this now.
 
 error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or
 directory 
 
 If you want to track current you must use mergemaster.
 This is probably because you haven't updated rc.network...
 
 case ${sshd_enable} in
 [Yy][Ee][Ss])
 if [ ! -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key ]; then
 echo ' creating ssh host key';
 /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
 fi
 ;;
 esac
 
 My host key was generated automatically when I rebooted and I was
 quite impressed.
 
 Just type 'mergemaster' as root.  It's interactive and doesn't overwrite
 anything automatically.


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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread R Joseph Wright


 On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 12:02:38PM +, FreeBSD mailing list wrote:
  You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
  to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and
  more frequently direct) insults to intelligence and sensibilities.
 
 When you have more experience helping people on a frequent basis,
 perhaps you will revise this statement. Try helping folks out every day
 on IRC for 2 or 3 years and tell me what you think THEN. Alternative:
 answer every question asked on freebsd-questions for same period.
 
 You'll see the point once you accomplish this.
 
  There is absolutely no reason why you can't submit the help, with 
  suggestion toward ones perception of "the Right Way" to do it, 
  rather than beat the issue to death with superior posturing.
 
 There is absolutely no reason why people should lift a finger to help
 somebody else when said question/inquiry has been documented somewhere
 on the web or in the manpages, or someplace else.

You're right. However, there is no reason to lift a finger to not 
help someone either.  If you don't want to help, simply don't.  You save
everyone energy.  
Being a jerk isn't going to keep people from posting elementary questions,
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

 Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
 to merge...

You need to be reading -current or stop running it.  The issue with
/etc/ssh/sshd_config has been discussed to death.

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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

 You know people, it's quite sad that those with knowledge simply refuse
 to answer simple questions without "RTFM" attitudes and indirect (and

What you and others don't seem to understand is that there are also
"minimum responsibilities" that have been established for users of our
non-mainstream branches.  Those minimums are published in the Handbook
and other documents and have been established in order to ensure that
the developers don't spend more time answering the same questions over
and over in email than they do in actually writing code and improving
FreeBSD in various ways.  Such a thing would be bad for everyone and
so a number of people, including myself, take it upon ourselves to
drive the right behavior by not simply answering "needless" questions
and thus encouraging the querants, in their initial success, to follow
those questions up with more.  One of the requirements for running
-current vs one of our mainstream releases is that people read this
mailing list, for example, and that's a necessary requirement because
we'd otherwise have to "announce" the same issues in -current over and
over again for each person to run across some transitional thing.

The -current branch is NOT intended for the average Joe, it's very
directly aimed at developers and developers have to deal with the idea
of minimum effective requirements every day so this shouldn't come as
a shock to anyone either.  If it does, you're in the wrong place and
should go back to a mainstream release of FreeBSD with all due haste.

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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread Doug Barton

Matt Heckaman wrote:
 
 Despite the name, mergemaster is not only for merging, it's about the most
 handy tool I've ever come across for make worlds, makes updating configs a
 very easy task indeed. Doug definately deserves a few hundred pats on the
 back for that program.

Well, kind words are always appreciated... of course money is the
universal language of appreciation...  *chuckle*

Doug
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Re: sshd in current....no config files in /etc/ssh

2000-03-07 Thread David O'Brien

On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 11:31:26AM -0800, William Woods wrote:
 Good god, I am saying that the files to merger dont existthere is nothing
 to merge...

  If you insist on doing it by hand, start with 
  "diff -urN /etc /usr/src/etc"


Perhaps you are not familar with the "-N" option to diff.

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