Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-08 Thread Terry Lambert
is simply the fact that the results are not 100% accurate. > I tought this was obvious? Let's all agree that /dev/shm is an obvious lose that was put there for the POSIX cruft, and it's not really a necessary implementation detail. Mostly, I think it's there to support shared u

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Doug White
gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried > adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any > information? Thank you. I am somewhat new to FreeBSD but have used > linux for Many years. /dev/shm is a holdover from the SYSV days. Doing some googling around, I think

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Matthias Andree
Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is already a functional non-procfs implementation that has been > around long before procps top: groupsys top 3.5b12 (i.e. the top that > all other non-Linux systems use) compiles fine on even the newest Linux > kernels with the attached patch. Appar

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Harti Brandt
Hi, I'm not sure, whether this mailing list is the correct place for linux-centered discussions. Perhaps you want to continue via private mail? Regards, harti On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Dan Nelson wrote: DN>In the last episode (Jul 07), Matthias Andree said: DN>> Marcin Dalecki schrieb am 2003-07-07

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 03:35:21PM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > Thomas Dickey wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > > > >>You know that file system name lookup is one of the most > >>expensive system calls under UNIX? > > > > > >stating the obvious is a clums

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 07), Matthias Andree said: > Marcin Dalecki schrieb am 2003-07-07: > > Matthias Andree wrote: > > >Update your Linux top or run fewer processes on it then. :-> > > > > You know that file system name lookup is one of the most expensive > > system calls under UNIX? > > So w

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Matthias Andree wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: The point is that this is one of the reasons why the top command in question takes a lot of relative CPU time under Linux. Some "faster" versions of procps utils try to cache data but the trade off is simply the fact that the resul

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Matthias Andree
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > The point is that this is one of the reasons why the top command in > question takes a lot of relative CPU time under Linux. Some > "faster" versions of procps utils try to cache data but the trade off > is simply the fact that the results are not 100%

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Matthias Andree
Marcin Dalecki schrieb am 2003-07-07: > Matthias Andree wrote: > >Update your Linux top or run fewer processes on it then. :-> > > You know that file system name lookup is one of the most > expensive system calls under UNIX? So what? If you don't like the interface because it does ever so expens

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: You know that file system name lookup is one of the most expensive system calls under UNIX? stating the obvious is a clumsy rhetorical ploy (asking for agreement without making a point). The point is that this i

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > You know that file system name lookup is one of the most > expensive system calls under UNIX? stating the obvious is a clumsy rhetorical ploy (asking for agreement without making a point). -- Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Matthias Andree wrote: Marcin Dalecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There isn't much either Solaris /proc or FresBSD /proc have in common with what Linux calls /proc. And finally on my FreeBSD box - kozaczek# mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) kozaczek# t

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Matthias Andree
Marcin Dalecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There isn't much either Solaris /proc or FresBSD /proc have in common with > what Linux calls /proc. And finally on my FreeBSD box - > kozaczek# mount > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > kozaczek# top > > And t

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 10:22:02AM +0200, Juan Rodriguez Hervella wrote: > > (still waiting for FreeBSD to "complete" a sysinstall program that doesn't > > look as if it was an assignment for high-school interns). > > What's the matter with "sysinstall" ? > I very much like "sysinstall" as it is n

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-07 Thread Juan Rodriguez Hervella
: > > : > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried > > : > >adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any > > : > > > : > For some unexcused reason there is the trend in Linux to represent > > : > everyth

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Thomas E. Dickey wrote: The /proc stuff is used in "real" Unix's such as Solaris. Just checking, I see that FreeBSD implements procfs, which is along the same lines. There isn't much either Solaris /proc or FresBSD /proc have in common with what Linux calls /proc. And finally on my FreeBSD box -

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Marcin Dalecki
libraries needed and attempted to start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any information? Thank you. I am somewhat new to FreeBSD but have used linux for Many years. For some unexcused reason there is the trend in

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Christopher Vance wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:14:44PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > : On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > : > Myron J. Mayfield wrote: > : > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm.

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Christopher Vance
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 08:14:44PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: : On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: : > Myron J. Mayfield wrote: : > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried : > >adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Thomas Dickey
inux libraries needed and attempted to > >start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried > >adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any > >information? Thank you. I am somewhat new to FreeBSD but have used > >linux for Many years. >

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Myron J. Mayfield
saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried adding this to /dev but was unable to. Does anyone have any information? Thank you. I am somewhat new to FreeBSD but have used linux for Many years. For some unexcused reason there is the trend in Linux to represent everything as kind of a wired half finished

Re: /dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Myron J. Mayfield wrote: I attempted to install the linux java sapgui on FreeBSD 5.0, but the jar file only unpacked part of it. I then copied the files from my Redhat 9 machine. I linked up all the linux libraries needed and attempted to start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm

/dev/shm

2003-07-06 Thread Myron J. Mayfield
I attempted to install the linux java sapgui on FreeBSD 5.0, but the jar file only unpacked part of it. I then copied the files from my Redhat 9 machine. I linked up all the linux libraries needed and attempted to start it. It gives me an error saying cant find /dev/shm. I tried adding this to