Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-19 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Allen Pulsifer wrote: According to the DPTA-3x spec from IBM, if the drive has fully entered Standby mode, it can take up to 31 seconds for it to spin back up. (See sections 3.3.6.1 and 13.0). Other drive models may take even longer, and even after the drive is back up, it may

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Martin Blapp
hi, I've bought two new 16GB ATA disks and am not able to boot anymore since wd0 has been retired: Fresh current from today: [...] ad0: ad_timeout: lost disk contact ata0: resetting devices and after it hangs forever. I tried IDE_DELAY=1 and 15000 but it did not change anything. Break

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 08:44:42PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: There is no way to see if the disk was in suspend mode, you can give it a command and se how long it takes before it comes back :) The problem here is that it takes the command and OK's it, but it takes the spinuptime + overhead

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Martin Blapp
Sorry, I found a rather easy workaround. Disable DMA for the disks in the BIOS ... But I still wonder why enable/disable ATA DMA in kernel has no effect for this crash. Why does only the BIOS disable help ? ata-pci0: Unknown PCI ATA controller (generic mode) at device 7.1 on pci0 ata-pci0:

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Martin Blapp wrote: Sorry, I found a rather easy workaround. Disable DMA for the disks in the BIOS ... But I still wonder why enable/disable ATA DMA in kernel has no effect for this crash. Why does only the BIOS disable help ? No idea, I have to study AMD's southbridge first..

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 11:20:51PM +0100, Martin Blapp wrote: Sorry, I found a rather easy workaround. Disable DMA for the disks in the BIOS ... But I still wonder why enable/disable ATA DMA in kernel has no effect for this crash. Why does only the BIOS disable help ? Purely a wild

RE: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-18 Thread Allen Pulsifer
r.; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact) It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 08:44:42PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: There is no way to see if the disk was in suspend mode, you can give it a command and se how long it takes before it

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soren Schmidt writes: It seems Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Yup, sounds like the problem some are seing, now I wonder why I havn't seen it on any of the IBM disks I've access to, hmm... It apparantly can't be disabled, but I'll try to figure out if I can detect when

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-17 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 08:22:03AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: Yup, sounds like the problem some are seing, now I wonder why I havn't seen it on any of the IBM disks I've access to, hmm... It apparantly can't be disabled, but I'll try to figure out if I can detect when the drive is in this

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-17 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Yup, sounds like the problem some are seing, now I wonder why I havn't seen it on any of the IBM disks I've access to, hmm... It apparantly can't be disabled, but I'll try to figure out if I can detect when the drive is in this mode, or put it in

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-17 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 02:28:29PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: Because the wd driver has a 10 secs timeout, and ata has 5 secs. I think the easiest way to "solve" this is to increase the timeout to 10-15 secs, as little as I want to do that... I don't really understand disk drivers, so if

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able to pinn it down, however. IF they occur, they occur somewhere between 9:15 and 9:20 a.m. OR p.m. But they don't

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able to pinn it down, however. IF they occur, they occur somewhere between 9:15

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:36:42AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: One more thing, do you have SMART enabled in your BIOS ??, if so turn it off, and see if that changes anything... I don't recall having it enabled; but I will check to make sure as soon as I get home from work (which is still some

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: That's interesting...In my case it is quite easily reproduced (very predictable). All I have to do is reboot and then run sysinstall and when it probes the devices the disks time out. So far I have not been able to get this behavior at any other time. I

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:29:30PM +0600, Max Khon wrote: hi, there! same here, dmesg output: SNIP ata_command: timeout waiting for interrupt Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. done ata0-master: ad_timeout:

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Dave J. Boers wrote: Could you tell met the exact time on which these messages occurred? Anywhere near 10:15 or 9:15 ? nope. the time is unpredictable. sometimes it can work more than a day without spilling out those messages /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:25:11AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: I am still having "disc contact lost messages" regularly too. I've been posting about them on several occasions some time ago. I haven't been able to pinn it down, however. IF they occur, they

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 07:10:46AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done snipsnip Dec 16 07:01:24 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 07:10:46AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting Dec 15 19:01:02 test /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done snipsnip Dec 16 07:01:24 test /kernel:

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:02:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: Uhm, that wont be new WD drives, as they are exactly the same as IBM drives give or take the label :) Huh? That I didn't know. So you're saying that WD and IBM 18 Gb disks are the same hardware? My disk: ad0: WDC

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Dave J. Boers wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:02:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: Uhm, that wont be new WD drives, as they are exactly the same as IBM drives give or take the label :) Huh? That I didn't know. So you're saying that WD and IBM 18 Gb disks are the same hardware?

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 09:25:11AM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: There is this thing with the IBM's doing some headcleaning stuff once a day/week, but I've never seen any of my IBM's do that (I got plenty of them). I'll try to get more info on that from IBM... Check

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Dave J. Boers
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 04:50:55PM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Check http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/prodspec/djna_spw.pdf snip If a command is received during spin down of ADM, the drive quits the spin down and tries to complete the command as soon as possible. In case the

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-16 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: Yup, sounds like the problem some are seing, now I wonder why I havn't seen it on any of the IBM disks I've access to, hmm... It apparantly can't be disabled, but I'll try to figure out if I can detect when the drive is in this mode, or put it in standby mode

ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-15 Thread Devin Butterfield
Hi, I just recently compiled a kernel with the new ATA driver and have discovered a problem: if I run sysinstall, right when it says "probing devices, please wait (this can be a while)" error messages saying... Dec 15 21:20:05 dbm /kernel: ata0-slave: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting

Re: ATA driver problem?? (lost disk contact)

1999-12-15 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Devin Butterfield wrote: Hi, I just recently compiled a kernel with the new ATA driver and have discovered a problem: if I run sysinstall, right when it says "probing devices, please wait (this can be a while)" error messages saying... [snip] and after printing these messages a