Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
Please leave the wd driver for those who cannot use the ATA driver. At least until the ATA driver gets support for more older disks. I cant be the only person using an old 80 MB IDE drive as / with another drive as /usr (a 400 MB SCSI). I haven't tried for a couple of months but the ATA driver didn't work over several different world builds back then and I haven't seen commits to indicate it will work now. dmesg from a less than a week old -CURRENT says the disk is: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Maxtor 7080 AT-TTT, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 77MB (158440 sectors), 932 cyls, 10 heads, 17 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: driver is using old-style compatability shims Lots of people may say "buy new hardware" but the fact is that my 486DX4-100 with these crappy old disks does extremely well as my user-mode ppp connection to the net using NAT. It also runs a DHCP server, Squid proxy server, name server, and IMAP server very nicely. I also have no money for my FreeBSD hobby. Some of you will say "stick with 4.0-RELEASE or earlier" and thats what I'll have to do if wd goes but I do prefer to keep all 3 of my machines running -CURRENT so I can easily recover from bad -CURRENT experiences by grabbing binaries from another machine etc... (Of course I build world on the Celeron 300a and install it on the others). On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: Yes... That's right. Use ata and related stuff instead. No. Yes. -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
It seems Matthew Sean Thyer wrote: Please leave the wd driver for those who cannot use the ATA driver. At least until the ATA driver gets support for more older disks. I cant be the only person using an old 80 MB IDE drive as / with another drive as /usr (a 400 MB SCSI). I haven't tried for a couple of months but the ATA driver didn't work over several different world builds back then and I haven't seen commits to indicate it will work now. dmesg from a less than a week old -CURRENT says the disk is: Well, you could supply me with data on what goes wrong and help to get it resolved, thats the way things work around here... The wd driver is only removed from current, so you will still be able to follow 4.x... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
It seems David Gilbert wrote: I still have hardware that works with wd and not ata. I posted awhile ago that ata gets stuck in a retry loop on my system. This is with a CVSUP of a couple of days ago. Be sure you have the abosolutely latest version of the ata driver, a bug was fixed in the last couble of days. I can provide logins on the box if someone wants to take a look at it. Nice to know, but it wont help much as long as the system wont boot, unless you also have a serial console and a remote reset on that box. -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, you could supply me with data on what goes wrong and help to get it resolved, thats the way things work around here... I'm really ready to do this as i've the same pb with a not so old Desktop under one of the latest 4.0 Current before the 5.0 fork. I've posted my system informations in this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Ahem, sorry, I've forgot to mention the version of ATA driver (it was a cvsup on March 9). I'm currently make a new 4-Stable world and gonna try again with ata-all.c v 1.50. The wd driver is only removed from current, so you will still be able to follow 4.x... Sure wd is working, but i can't imagine why ata don't on a 3 years old system... -- Eric Jacoboni Ta mère, son mot de passe c'est « toto » ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 10:49:43PM +1030, Matthew Sean Thyer wrote: Please leave the wd driver for those who cannot use the ATA driver. At least until the ATA driver gets support for more older disks. ... I haven't tried for a couple of months but the ATA driver didn't work Such a report is _useless_ and can only create FUD. The ATA driver has changed quite a lot. How about *TRYING* the latest ATA driver before even emailing this list with concerns. You may surprisingly find that ATA works just great for you know, and you've done damage rather than help with this email. -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
Yes... That's right. Use ata and related stuff instead. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl In my Dreams, I see you, I can tell you, how I feel... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
Damn. I'm gonna miss my faithful, old (circa 1993), worksation (dual P90, Intel Neptune based PCI+EISA), with a crappy "TEKRAM DC-6X0X IDE cacheing controller" in it. Been using this thing since 3.0-current when SMP was first introduced...(it was previously running OS/2 2.1 SMP) Fortunately, I can switch to using a SCSI disk on my DPT PM2022 EISA card, which is now supported - but only with 1 disk! (the driver does not work with a LUN != 0) Yes... That's right. Use ata and related stuff instead. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl In my Dreams, I see you, I can tell you, how I feel... -- :{ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Andy Farkas wrote: Fortunately, I can switch to using a SCSI disk on my DPT PM2022 EISA card, which is now supported - but only with 1 disk! (the driver does not work with a LUN != 0) I think you mean 'ID != 0'. 'camcontrol rescan 0:n:0' will make the other devices show up. Really weird. Don't blame me. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL| ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP! old wd driver going away
It seems Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: Yes... That's right. Use ata and related stuff instead. No. Yes. -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message