(fwd) Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils Makefile ports/sysutils/rclean Makefile distinfo pkg-comment pkg-descr pkg-plist

2002-05-15 Thread The Anarcat

[putting anti-flame on]

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On Wed, 15 May 2002 13:16:52 -0400
The Anarcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why isn't this part of base?

It needs agreement of -current.
Why don't you ask there ?



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Re: (fwd) Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils Makefile ports/sysutils/rclean Makefile distinfo pkg-comment pkg-descr pkg-plist

2002-05-15 Thread Maxim Sobolev

The Anarcat wrote:
 
 [putting anti-flame on]

To invite a normal discussion you should at least provide the
following information:

- What `rclean' is for?
- Why do you think it could be useful in base system?

Your assumption that the list readers know answers to those two
questions (or would care enough to dig for the answers by themselves)
is incorrect and entitles you not to flamewar but to ugh, what this
is all about? reaction from their part and likely to the complete
lack of any discussion at all as a result.

-Maxim

 
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 On Wed, 15 May 2002 13:16:52 -0400
 The Anarcat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why isn't this part of base?
 
 It needs agreement of -current.
 Why don't you ask there ?
 
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 than astronomy is about telescopes
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Re: cvs commit: ports/sysutils Makefile ports/sysutils/rclean Makefile distinfo pkg-comment pkg-descr pkg-plist

2002-05-15 Thread The Anarcat

On Wed May 15, 2002 at 09:55:42PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
 The Anarcat wrote:
  
  [putting anti-flame on]

s/on/suit on/
 
 To invite a normal discussion you should at least provide the
 following information:

Well, I expected people to look at the port, but I'll provide more
information here.
 
 - What `rclean' is for?


rclean provides a command-line tool to order and clean content of 
rc.conf, using option order from /etc/defaults/rc.conf and printing only 
choices that were different by the default value in /etc/rc.conf.
Output is customizable from only used values to full listing.

WWW: http://www.lapo.it/rclean/


 - Why do you think it could be useful in base system?

Well, that part is more personal, but I think it could remove the
tendency people have of complaining about the current /etc/defaults
scheme. There has been a few threads about problems arising when
/etc/defaults/rc.conf was getting updated. I think rclean might help
solve those problems, in the same spirit mergemaster helps managing
configuration file changes.

 Your assumption that the list readers know answers to those two
 questions (or would care enough to dig for the answers by themselves)
 is incorrect and entitles you not to flamewar but to ugh, what this
 is all about? reaction from their part and likely to the complete
 lack of any discussion at all as a result.

I wonder what's best after all. ;)

I must admit I was being a bit blunt by just challenging people to put
this in base, somehow assuming everything should go in. In other
words, the question is:

Why should this go in base?

rather than:

Why isn't this in base?

My apologies.

A.

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