Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-05 Thread Wilko Bulte

As Ben Smithurst wrote ...
 Amancio Hasty wrote:
 
  Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ?
 
 He isn't. He's saying normally when he cvsups, it only takes a couple of
 minutes, not that he does it every couple of minutes. At least that's the
 way I read it.

Right, that is what I meant. Sorry, should've been more precise in my
original post. Would not make a lot of sense to run cvsup every few minutes
;-)

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-05 Thread Wilko Bulte

As Mark Huizer wrote ...
  Sun Jul  4 22:13:55 CEST 1999
  yedi#
  
  cvsup version has not been changed. 
  
  I did change the cvsup server some time ago, but I'm now back at
  cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
  
 hey! that's my queue! when did it start to happen?
 If it was last week, then there might have been some cause in the
 upgrading of the machine to 3.2, or it might involve softupdates.

Don't worry, I checked my logs and I also saw it on June 4. But 
unfortunately I can't tell from the log from which server it was
cvsupping. 

So whatever it is, it is not something that started last week.

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-05 Thread Wilko Bulte

As Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote ...
 * Mark Huizer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990705 02:47]:
   
   I did change the cvsup server some time ago, but I'm now back at
   cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
   
  hey! that's my queue! when did it start to happen?
  If it was last week, then there might have been some cause in the
  upgrading of the machine to 3.2, or it might involve softupdates.
 
 That was once last week, which made sense to me after you told me you 
 upgraded cvsup.nl. I think Wilko must have suffered from the same `problem'.

Hmm. Well, I'm not sure, but I'll watch my cvsups a bit more.

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Amancio Hasty


Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ?


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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread David Scheidt

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:

 
 Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ?

I think you have a language problem here.  I think he meant it normally 
takes a couple of minutes, not that he cvsups every couple of minutes.  


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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:

 Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ?

I think what was meant was that the CVSup process takes a few minutes
usually, but has taken over an hour now.

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Wilko Bulte  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe this is a stupid question and/or FAQ but:

You probably should have written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead
of the -current list.

 I'm currently cvsupping updates on the CVS repository. Most of the
 times that is a couple of minutes, but today it is already 1 hour busy.
 
 Mainly with:
 
 SetAttr bla 
 
 (loads and loads of these). 
 
 What gives?

Several things can cause this:

- You are running cvsup with a different umask than usual.  To guard
  against this, you can add a "umask=022" setting in your supfile
  (CVSup-16.0 and later).

- You are running cvsup under a different user-id than usual.  This
  probably has no effect unless you have "preserve" in your supfile.
  That's almost always a bad idea except for special situations.

- You've accidentally touched all the files in your repository in
  some way (changed their modtimes, changed their permissions, changed
  their owners, etc.).

John
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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Amancio Hasty


Arghh...  Yeap, upon reading the original message again it reads
as you have stated . 

I need more sleep ... 8)

Tnks

 On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:
 
  Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ?
 
 I think what was meant was that the CVSup process takes a few minutes
 usually, but has taken over an hour now.
 
 - alex
 
 I thought felt your touch
 In my car, on my clutch
 But I guess it's just someone who felt a lot like I remember you.
   - Translator
 

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Alex Zepeda

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:

 
 Arghh...  Yeap, upon reading the original message again it reads
 as you have stated . 
 
 I need more sleep ... 8)

Nahh.. caffinated daemon candies OTOH...

- alex



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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Nick Hibma


Maybe, your machine's date is wrong? Did you change cvsup server lately?
Did it upgrade it's version of cvsup? I once changed from de to nl and
saw similar results.

Cheers,

Nick

On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:

 Maybe this is a stupid question and/or FAQ but:
 
 I'm currently cvsupping updates on the CVS repository. Most of the
 times that is a couple of minutes, but today it is already 1 hour busy.
 
 Mainly with:
 
 SetAttr bla 
 
 (loads and loads of these). 
 
 What gives?
 
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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread John Polstra


Mike Pritchard wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
 - You are running cvsup with a different umask than usual.  To guard
   against this, you can add a "umask=022" setting in your supfile
   (CVSup-16.0 and later).
 
 Speaking of CVSup-16.0, I can't get the port in /usr/ports/net/cvsup to
 link.  I get the following error message:
 
 - linking cvspasswd
 /usr/lib/crt0.o: file not recognize: File format not recognized

It looks like you have an old (a.out) Modula-3 installation.
Pkg_delete modula-3 and modula-3-lib and then try again.

John


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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Mike Pritchard:
 - linking cvspasswd
 /usr/lib/crt0.o: file not recognize: File format not recognized

Why is it trying to link the old a.out run-time code ?
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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Wilko Bulte

As Nick Hibma wrote ...
 
 Maybe, your machine's date is wrong? Did you change cvsup server lately?
 Did it upgrade it's version of cvsup? I once changed from de to nl and
 saw similar results.

Date is OK:

yedi#date
Sun Jul  4 22:13:55 CEST 1999
yedi#

cvsup version has not been changed. 

I did change the cvsup server some time ago, but I'm now back at
cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Wilko Bulte

As John Polstra wrote ...
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Wilko Bulte  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maybe this is a stupid question and/or FAQ but:
 
 You probably should have written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead
 of the -current list.

Well, I was not exactly claiming this is a cvsup bug of some sorts.

  I'm currently cvsupping updates on the CVS repository. Most of the
  times that is a couple of minutes, but today it is already 1 hour busy.
  
  Mainly with:
  
  SetAttr bla 
  
  (loads and loads of these). 
  
  What gives?
 
 Several things can cause this:
 
 - You are running cvsup with a different umask than usual.  To guard
   against this, you can add a "umask=022" setting in your supfile
   (CVSup-16.0 and later).

I ran cvsup as root, umask set to 022. But I added the umask line
to the supfile just to make sure.

 - You are running cvsup under a different user-id than usual.  This
   probably has no effect unless you have "preserve" in your supfile.
   That's almost always a bad idea except for special situations.

I run it as root, and have always done so. Is this a bad idea maybe?

 - You've accidentally touched all the files in your repository in
   some way (changed their modtimes, changed their permissions, changed
   their owners, etc.).

Not that I recall having done so. But I'll keep a close eye on this.

I just gave cvsup another try and it only took a few minutes updating
some files in the repository. Which looked just fine.

Thank you for your help,

Wilko
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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Mark Huizer

 Sun Jul  4 22:13:55 CEST 1999
 yedi#
 
 cvsup version has not been changed. 
 
 I did change the cvsup server some time ago, but I'm now back at
 cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
 
hey! that's my queue! when did it start to happen?
If it was last week, then there might have been some cause in the
upgrading of the machine to 3.2, or it might involve softupdates.

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread John Polstra

Wilko Bulte wrote:
 Several things can cause this:
 
 - You are running cvsup with a different umask than usual.  To guard
   against this, you can add a "umask=022" setting in your supfile
   (CVSup-16.0 and later).
 
 I ran cvsup as root, umask set to 022.

OK, that must not have been the problem.

 - You are running cvsup under a different user-id than usual.  This
   probably has no effect unless you have "preserve" in your supfile.
   That's almost always a bad idea except for special situations.
 
 I run it as root, and have always done so. Is this a bad idea maybe?

No, that's fine.

 - You've accidentally touched all the files in your repository in
   some way (changed their modtimes, changed their permissions, changed
   their owners, etc.).
 
 Not that I recall having done so. But I'll keep a close eye on this.

Other possibilities:

- You lost your "checkouts.cvs" file somehow.  It's supposed to be
underneath your cvsup "base" directory somewhere.  Don't bother
looking for it, because cvsup will have recreated it for you by now.

- You changed your supfile in some way.

- Your friendly mirror site maintainer accidentally touched his
copies of the files.

And of course there's always the possibility that it was caused by a
plain old bug in CVSup.

 I just gave cvsup another try and it only took a few minutes updating
 some files in the repository. Which looked just fine.

Good.  I'm glad it's OK again.

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Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai

* Mark Huizer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990705 02:47]:
  
  I did change the cvsup server some time ago, but I'm now back at
  cvsup.nl.FreeBSD.org
  
 hey! that's my queue! when did it start to happen?
 If it was last week, then there might have been some cause in the
 upgrading of the machine to 3.2, or it might involve softupdates.

That was once last week, which made sense to me after you told me you 
upgraded cvsup.nl. I think Wilko must have suffered from the same `problem'.

regards,

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