Re: Build failure under 3.1-STABLE

1999-05-14 Thread Greg Lehey
Somebody sent a message to -questions today about trying make world under 3.1-STABLE, but the make died in modules/vinum. Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted the message, so I can't remember who it was. I've checked this out, and I think I can safely say: 1. There's nothing wrong with the

Re: DMA problems with IBM DeskStar drive

1999-05-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Greg Lehey g...@lemis.com writes: What chip set are you using? Aladdin (it's a Super Socket 7 motherboard): Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #1:

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa y-nak...@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp writes: Then explain to us why newbus is wrong and why the 4.4BSD scheme is right. Because, you are misunderstanding 4.4BSD scheme (and newconfig). This is pointless. All you're doing is pointing your finger and screaming It's not right! It's not

Alladdin IDE slow?

1999-05-14 Thread Kevin Day
I'm using an Alladin chipset in a -current machine... CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (337.19-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 126808064 (123836K bytes)

Re: egcs, libstdc++, libg++, Class Library

1999-05-14 Thread German Tischler
On Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:32:06PM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Have you tried using the C++ standard way? It works. #include iostream #include string using namespace std; Of course, there are many times you won't want to include the entire namespace. You don't need to. EGCS is

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa
This is pointless. All you're doing is pointing your finger and screaming It's not right! It's not fair! without saying anything of actual value. OK OK, you are right. I have language barrier, so I can't explain well. I talk other newconfig member, one of member, Furuta-san will go to Usenix

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa y-nak...@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp writes: OK OK, you are right. I have language barrier, so I can't explain well. I talk other newconfig member, one of member, Furuta-san will go to Usenix and presentation of newconfig paper. Any chance of getting a preview of that paper? Is it, or

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa
Any chance of getting a preview of that paper? Is it, or will it be, available on the Web? I don't know, probably the paper not yet available on Web. Please ask to Furuta-san. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nak...@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakag...@jp.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Mike Smith once wrote: For a usable dynamic architecture, loadable modules need to be compiled to support both UP and SMP architectures simultaneously. Thus the locking primitives need to be conditionalised at _runtime_. What about kldload

Re: de driver problem

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Wilko Bulte wrote: Sounds very reasonable to me. Running the same command twice to get things really clean sounds suspicious ;-) In any case: I'm rebuilding now after a cvsup chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/* rm -rf /usr/obj/* We'll see what happens next. Nothing will happen, I suppose.

Re: de driver problem

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Rodney W. Grimes wrote: I periodically see this one reported, and It is always repaired by the reporter making sure their tree is _really_ clean before doing a make world. Really clean means make cleandir _twice_, This indicates to me, the original author of ``cleandir'', that

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Atsushi Furuta
In article xzphfpg3tmo@localhost.ping.uio.no, Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no writes: Any chance of getting a preview of that paper? Is it, or will it be, available on the Web? Nakagawa-san slightly misunderstands. I have no time to write full paper, so I have already

Re: problem with NewScroll Mouse, etc

1999-05-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 13 May 1999 23:14:25 +0930, Matthew Thyer wrote: This is the PS/2 Intellimouse clone. (I'm note sure if 'real' MicroSoft Intellimice work ??). Mine does under CURRENT. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body

Re: somebody has broken sysctlbyname() in -current

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Stefan Bethke wrote: Any pointer on Forth literature/web pages would be appreciated, especially if it's not the ANSI standard (I've looked at it, and it is that: a standard, not a reference manual or a tutorial). My Forth knowledge is rather rusty, I realised... last time I remember I was

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa wrote: Then explain to us why newbus is wrong and why the 4.4BSD scheme is right. Because, you are misunderstanding 4.4BSD scheme (and newconfig). The *GOAL* here is the following: You bought a computer with the super-ultra-new Microsoft (tm) Microsoft Bus (tm), for

Re: the new config and booting

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
John-Mark Gurney wrote: I did a couple installs using normal slices and standard MBR, and when the machine restarted, I got the Operating System Missing error... the only way I was able to install on the system was to use dangerous dedicated mode... I've seen this happen a couple times w/

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
David Schwartz wrote: Believe it or not, good ideas can even come from people who can't code at all, and the ideas are just as good. Slapping these people down just ensures they don't contribute in the future. Now if their ideas genuinely are bad, you are more than

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 02:17:28AM +0200, a little birdie told me that Sheldon Hearn remarked On Fri, 14 May 1999 01:13:36 +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: Here it continues to panic with screen, same errors of yesterday... I'll try with X right now but I think it is the same

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Fri, 14 May 1999 07:39:29 EST, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: I have one here with sources cvsup'd around 4am (CDT) today (as in, ~4 hours ago). Start X, start up screen in an xterm, and *bing*. However, I strut my skill in manpiluating DDB while staring at a frozen X session ;

Panic with screen w/info (was Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X)

1999-05-14 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
Well, this apparently doesn't involve X, only screen. (X may still be broken/flaky, but this doesn't involve it specifically) This time I just ran screen on a vty, and *poof* -- Looking at the trace below, does this look like a (if not the) problem? #10 0xc0162490 in ttyflush (tp=0xc029dc20,

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Ilya Naumov ca...@avias.com writes: GR I'm currently running into a problem, that when I start my system, GR it spontaneously reboots when starting X. Has anyone else run into GR this? yes, i'm experiencing the same problem with today's (May, 12) kernels. Me three. The box freezes solid

panic still here ...

1999-05-14 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
This morning after cvsupping I made a world again, but screen continue to go in panics. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x14 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc685bd64 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc685bd64 frame pointer =

New ATA driver still can't attach to ISA controllers

1999-05-14 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Dear Soren, Do you remember that currently your famous driver (after new-bus announcement) don't probed on ISA hardwsre (in my case Toshiba CDX445)? Sincerely, Maxim ? ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread John R. LoVerso
Of course, DB 2 is still available as an easily installed port/package. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:15:35AM -0400, John R. LoVerso wrote: Of course, DB 2 is still available as an easily installed port/package. Not so easily, it conflict with libc's DB in subtle but harmful manner. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC+ D A a++ C

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread Jos Backus
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 07:21:23PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Not so easily, it conflict with libc's DB in subtle but harmful manner. Talking about upgrades: people on the mutt-dev list say our (outdated) ncurses is to blame for not dealing properly with SIGWINCH. Newer versions (4.2 at

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
Talking about upgrades: people on the mutt-dev list say our (outdated) ncurses is to blame for not dealing properly with SIGWINCH. Works fine with libslang. Newer versions (4.2 at least) are said to get it right. Would installing the ncurses port be able to cause similar problems? Mutt

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread Jos Backus
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 09:17:24AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: Works fine with libslang. Indeed it does. -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ Reliability means never _/ _/ _/ having to say you're sorry. _/

RE: DMA problems with IBM DeskStar drive

1999-05-14 Thread Alok K. Dhir
Look for that setting in the SCSI BIOS -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org]on Behalf Of Brian Feldman Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 7:52 PM To: Jordan K. Hubbard Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp; Soren Schmidt; Dag-Erling

Re: DMA problems with IBM DeskStar drive

1999-05-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Alok K. Dhir ad...@forumone.com writes: Look for that setting in the SCSI BIOS I think not. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@yes.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: DMA problems with IBM DeskStar drive

1999-05-14 Thread Brian Feldman
On 14 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Alok K. Dhir ad...@forumone.com writes: Look for that setting in the SCSI BIOS I think not. I think not too. EIDE drives tend to not mess with SCSI too much... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@yes.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: Panic with screen w/info (was Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X)

1999-05-14 Thread Luoqi Chen
It seems that screen was trying to flush the master pty, before the slave tty was even open. We were lucky that this didn't crash our machines before the dev_t changes, it only caused the console to be flushed instead. But after the dev_t changes, it is fatal. Try this fix (band-aid only, better

RE: DMA problems with IBM DeskStar drive

1999-05-14 Thread Alok K. Dhir
Sorry - I spaced. I read 'UltraSCSI', not 'UltraDMA'. *sheepish grin* Al -Original Message- From: Brian Feldman [mailto:gr...@unixhelp.org] Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 1:10 PM To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: ad...@forumone.com; Jordan K. Hubbard; Poul-Henning Kamp; Soren Schmidt;

Re: Panic with screen w/info (was Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X)

1999-05-14 Thread Mike Smith
This looks a lot like the I didn't use 'config -r' to generate my latest kernel build tree problem. Well, this apparently doesn't involve X, only screen. (X may still be broken/flaky, but this doesn't involve it specifically) This time I just ran screen on a vty, and *poof* --

Re: Panic with screen w/info (was Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X)

1999-05-14 Thread Luoqi Chen
It seems that screen was trying to flush the master pty, before the slave tty was even open. We were lucky that this didn't crash our machines before the dev_t changes, it only caused the console to be flushed instead. But after the dev_t changes, it is fatal. Try this fix (band-aid only,

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Luoqi Chen
This was due to a kludge in mfs implementation. Try change NUMCDEV in kern_conf.c to 255. Are you saying that there is a bug in the mfs implementation and a fix will be commited soon? (and change NUMCDEV until then) Or are you saying, the mfs implementation is now considered correct

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 199905141824.oaa06...@lor.watermarkgroup.com, Luoqi Chen writes: This was due to a kludge in mfs implementation. Try change NUMCDEV in kern_conf.c to 255. Are you saying that there is a bug in the mfs implementation and a fix will be commited soon? (and change NUMCDEV until

Re: Panic with screen w/info (was Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X)

1999-05-14 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 01:36:41PM -0400, a little birdie told me that Luoqi Chen remarked Here's the better fix, please let me know if it works, I won't be in a position to crash this box again until tomorrow, but I'll give it a whirl then. Thanks. Index: tty_pty.c

Re: Today's kernel crashes on starting X

1999-05-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Luoqi Chen wrote: This was due to a kludge in mfs implementation. Try change NUMCDEV in kern_conf.c to 255. Are you saying that there is a bug in the mfs implementation and a fix will be commited soon? (and change NUMCDEV until then) Or are you saying, the

Re: New ATA driver still can't attach to ISA controllers

1999-05-14 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Maxim Sobolev wrote: Dear Soren, Do you remember that currently your famous driver (after new-bus announcement) don't probed on ISA hardwsre (in my case Toshiba CDX445)? Yes, and I have the patches right here, I just need to test it a bit more and get the time to commit it (hopefully

Re: Nt source licenses...

1999-05-14 Thread Garance A Drosehn
At 3:51 PM +0700 5/12/99, Ustimenko Semen wrote: Are we going to get this license? I am interested in NTFS source code a lot... I would be very careful about getting an NT source license if your intention is to write NTFS support for some other operating system. Microsoft is not doing this

Re: Alladdin IDE slow?

1999-05-14 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Kevin Day wrote: I'm using an Alladin chipset in a -current machine... ad3 is the one getting the heaviest use, from me... However, I notice a few things from when I went to the ata driver, from a 3.1 kernel using the wd0 driver. The drive is now much slower... While I don't

Re: New ATA driver still can't attach to ISA controllers

1999-05-14 Thread Rick Whitesel
Hi: I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the work you have/are doing. The disk drive performance under IDE is very important for the practical use of FreeBSD. Thank you! Rick Whitesel Scientist NBase-Xyplex Eml: rwhite...@nbase-xyplex.com They that can give up essential liberty to

Inlining ucmpdi2 et al

1999-05-14 Thread Peter Jeremy
A recent commit by Justin T. Gibbs gi...@freebsd.org: Nuke ucmpdi2.c from i386/libkern to serve as a reminder that switch statements on 64bit values generate poor code. Looking thru libkern, many of the functions shouldn't be there since gcc should be generating in-line code. I believe the

Re: Berkeley DB 1.85 -- 2.0

1999-05-14 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:15:35AM -0400, John R. LoVerso wrote: Of course, DB 2 is still available as an easily installed port/package. Not so easily, it conflict with libc's DB in subtle but harmful manner. Only if it is configured with --enable-compat185. Just

Solved: NPX code reports negative i586_bzero() bandwidth

1999-05-14 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: i586_bzero() bandwidth = -2082577916 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 184877056 bytes/sec It seems that on a fast machines with a lot of cache long type is not sufficient to print i586_bzero bandwith values in bytes/s (in my case it was slightly overruned). Following is the

stable snap for smp?

1999-05-14 Thread Anthony Kimball
If anyone has applied reasonable stress to a recent MP kernel, preferrably with X, VESA, VM86, and found it stable, do please report on your last cvs update time: I, for one, would very much like to isolate a fairly stable post-newbus world. Presumably this would be helpful to other readers as

Re: Inlining ucmpdi2 et al

1999-05-14 Thread Bruce Evans
Looking thru libkern, many of the functions shouldn't be there since gcc should be generating in-line code. I believe the following are (or should be) superfluous: adddi3.c anddi3.c ashldi3.c ashrdi3.c cmpdi2.c iordi3.c lshldi3.c lshrdi3.c negdi2.c notdi2.c subdi3.c ucmpdi2.c udivdi3.c umoddi3.c

Re: panic still here ...

1999-05-14 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 14 May 1999 at 14:36:58 +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: This morning after cvsupping I made a world again, but screen continue to go in panics. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x14 fault code = supervisor read, page not present

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa
You bought a computer with the super-ultra-new Microsoft (tm) Microsoft Bus (tm), for which you bought the latest and greatest device X. It is extremely vulgar joke. I doubt your character. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nak...@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakag...@jp.freebsd.org To

Re: Heads up! config(8) changes..

1999-05-14 Thread Bruce Evans
In old mail, John Polstra j...@polstra.com wrote: In article 19990424190901.d3a791...@spinner.netplex.com.au, Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: ... So: things like: device sio1 at isa? tty port IO_COM2 tty irq 3 become: device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq3 What do you do about the ppc

Re: Heads up! config(8) changes..

1999-05-14 Thread John Polstra
Bruce Evans wrote: In old mail, John Polstra j...@polstra.com wrote: What do you do about the ppc device? Formerly, it needed to be net irq ... if the plip device was going to be used, but tty irq ... otherwise. Which one did you pick? tty was picked (see isa_compat.h). Also, support for

Re: New ATA driver still can't attach to ISA controllers

1999-05-14 Thread Andrew Atrens
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Rick Whitesel wrote: I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the work you have/are doing. The disk drive performance under IDE is very important for the practical use of FreeBSD. Thank you! I second that - thank you ! Andrew. -- +-- | Andrew Atrens

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/pci pcisupport.c

1999-05-14 Thread Tomoaki NISHIYAMA
From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa y-nak...@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp y-nakaga You bought a computer with the super-ultra-new Microsoft (tm) y-nakaga Microsoft Bus (tm), for which you bought the latest and greatest y-nakaga device X. y-nakaga y-nakaga It is extremely vulgar joke. I doubt your character. No, I