Re: IPv6

2000-02-19 Thread Yoshinobu Inoue
I ran across a few problems after I remade world. The new scoped address syntax breaks /etc/rc.network6. In particular, some lines that look like: Sorry not to announce it yet, but scoped addr format will still change, like below. addr%scope I'll send another mail to describe it in

Fixing init.

2000-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
I remeber being a newbie and getting burned by the need to explicitly turn a line 'off' in my /etc/ttys file instead of simply deleting it. This fixes it using a trivial mark then collect sweep. Can a couple people take a look? I'd like to get it into 4.0 because it seems to follow POLA

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Philipp Mergenthaler
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 10:39:42AM -0500, Bryan Liesner wrote: Jose, the problem seems to be resolved by rebuilding the boot loader. Or bypass the loader altogether. cd /usr/src/sys/boot make obj make all install and you'll be able to boot the kernel with the latest ata stuff. Do

release suggestion

2000-02-19 Thread Marc Schneiders
After installing and rebooting a machine takes a long time to get past sendmail. Adding the hostname to /etc/hosts solves this, as we all know. Is it not possible to let sysinstall do this? Or am I missing something somewhere? -- Marc Schneiders [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zelf.net

Re: Fixing init.

2000-02-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000219 02:22] wrote: I remeber being a newbie and getting burned by the need to explicitly turn a line 'off' in my /etc/ttys file instead of simply deleting it. This fixes it using a trivial mark then collect sweep. Can a couple people take a look?

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Brian J. McGovern" wrote: I don't know if I agree. "Custom" is exactly what it says... You can build out the system with specifically the components you want. Now, perhaps I'm out That proves "Custom" is not exactly what it says. You can do the same thing with Novice. ALL installation modes

Re: Supported ways to do RSA/OpenSSL on 4.0?

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Robert Watson wrote: /usr/ports/security/openssh/work/ssh/lib/../rsa.h:22: openssl/rsa.h: No such fil e or directory Yes, this is the same problem Jordan is seeing. I really don't know why, because it SHOULD be failing gracefully when it sees you don't have an

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bryan Liesner wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: Have you rebuild your modules lately ?? -Søren Yes. My world is current as of a few hours ago. I did a make world right after finding out about the loader problem to rule that possibility out. The disk probes

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
So do I. Unfortunately our hands are tied - the version of FreeBSD distributed in the US must not contain these because they are patented technologies and not available for unrestricted use. Unfortunately this is also the same version distributed worldwide on FreeBSD CDs, install At this

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Dan Langille
On 20 Feb 00, at 6:56, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: "Guided". I like it. That's *PRECISELY* what this installation option is. There is NO difference in the number of choices available in any of the three types. I have many times encountered a user who avoided the NOVICE install and tried one of

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-current/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Kai Großjohann wrote: "Jordan K. Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really kinda wish you'd point them to Novice^H^H^H^H^HStandard instead since it does more than be a bit more verbose, it also makes sure that all the

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
It already does this if you get your crypto from internat. US mirror sites only carry the neutered (no-RSA) version, but internat carries RSA and builds it conditional on USA_RESIDENT. And why don't the USA sites have the RSAREF version? I'm still not sure I understand the

ATA errors

2000-02-19 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I cvsupped this morning and I just had a chance to build a new kernel, and now I get a "cannot mount root" and it drops into some kind of commandline where I can enter a root for it to mount. This is the error it gives me now: ata0-slave: WARNING: WAIT_INTR active=ATA_WAIT_READY ata0-slave:

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Jose Gabriel Marcelino
Hi again, After remaking the loader (unnecessary since it's still broken), I've removed my KLDs from loader.conf (I was loading a splash screen) and it now boots as Bryan noticed. However it seems another problem showed up, and I'm not sure where the problem is. I have a Teles ISDN card on

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
Brian Beattie wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: "Guided". I like it. That's *PRECISELY* what this installation option is. There is NO difference in the number of choices available in any of the three types. Guided/Express/Expert. That's my vote. This still

RE: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Victor A. Salaman
Quoting from OpenBSD: "We took a free license release of ssh and OpenBSD-ifyed it. We get around the USA-based RSA patent by providing an easy way to automatically download and install a RSA-enabled package containing shared library versions of libcrypto and libssl. These packages are based on

RE: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Mike Nowlin
The whole RSA scheme is bogus, because anyone in the world can get an implementation of RSA, so its widely accesible, so why all this RSAREF/non-RSAREF mumbo-jumbo? Because US patent law is pretty dumb :) --mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: The questions which aren't being answered here are "what use is OpenSSL without RSA" To ports, not much - with the exception of one or two, they all require RSA. Intrinsically, a lot. I have big plans for using openssl in the base system, and if

Re: devices under 4.0

2000-02-19 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 09:50 PM 2/18/00 -0800, R Joseph Wright wrote: I recently upgraded from 3.2 to 4.0. I use an ide hard disk, and would like to know how to change over the devices. I created the new devices by copying over /usr/src/etc/MAKEDEV to a new /dev directory and running it, but it didn't create any

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Philipp Mergenthaler wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 10:39:42AM -0500, Bryan Liesner wrote: Jose, the problem seems to be resolved by rebuilding the boot loader. Or bypass the loader altogether. cd /usr/src/sys/boot make obj make all install and you'll be able to

cdrecord problem with current current

2000-02-19 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, cdrecord, freshly built on last night's -current: atlas# cdrecord -v dev=1,6,0 -inq Cdrecord release 1.8a21 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J–rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,6,0' scsibus: 1 target: 6 lun: 0 atapi: 0 cdrecord: Warning: controller returns zero sized CD capabilities

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Anatoly Vorobey wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 11:28:45PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Novice is ok, it's the other two that are problematic. Well, particularly "custom". "Custom" does not scare away anyone, and is actually actractive to Windows users. It should be called "death

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bryan Liesner wrote: Do you use KLMs? Yes, I do! I was loading a screen saver with the boot loader. And now I see I am wrong about rebuilding the loader! When I had success loading the kernel directly, I moved loading the screensaver into rc.conf instead. Then I thought that

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: Have you rebuild your modules lately ?? -Søren Yes. My world is current as of a few hours ago. I did a make world right after finding out about the loader problem to rule that possibility out. The disk probes still fail when loading today's

Re: Fixing init.

2000-02-19 Thread Doug Barton
Alfred Perlstein wrote: I remeber being a newbie and getting burned by the need to explicitly turn a line 'off' in my /etc/ttys file instead of simply deleting it. Here here. Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Victor Salaman wrote: I personally think that it's braindead to add openssl to the system and stripout parts of it (RSA IDEA). Don't get me wrong, I love to have So do I. Unfortunately our hands are tied - the version of FreeBSD distributed in the US must not contain

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Brian Beattie
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Kai Großjohann wrote: "Jordan K. Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really kinda wish you'd point them to Novice^H^H^H^H^HStandard instead since it does more than be a bit more verbose, it also makes sure that all the appropriate

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
openssl becomes a "distribution" like the DES bits are. Depending on external packages is actually something I'm trying to wean sysinstall away from because the dependency is a PITA and the creation of the packages collection is not automated in the same way that distribution building

Re: cdrecord problem with current current

2000-02-19 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 19:28:23 +, Bob Bishop wrote: Hi, cdrecord, freshly built on last night's -current: Freshly built? That's cdrecord 1.8a21, which is several versions old. I think you should be using cdrecord 1.8 release from the ports tree. atlas# cdrecord -v dev=1,6,0 -inq

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:31 PM -0800 2/19/00, Kris Kennaway wrote: if 4.0 is delayed, I want it delayed for things which are actually busted, and not to move features from the ports collection to the base system. No-one's talking about delaying 4.0. Not directly, but all the work trying to figure this out is

RE: Installing linux_base 6.1

2000-02-19 Thread Reginald S. Perry
Thanks all! rm -rf on /usr/compat/linux did the trick. Now I can try to install Oracle. :-) Thanks again. -Reggie -Original Message- From: Matthew Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 8:31 PM To: Jordan K. Hubbard Cc: Reginald S. Perry; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Broken FTP

2000-02-19 Thread Yoshinobu Inoue
Could you please create the patch which seems to be safely committed? That will be very much help. Well, I can try but I need to know most shortest and most trivial EPSV check sequence from you since can't check it locally and don't know about EPSV. EPSV is just enhanced version of

Real hackers run -current on their laptop (was: Re: 4.0(current) on a 486SLC2 ?)

2000-02-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 10:24:14PM -0500, Kelvin Farmer wrote: Hi, I was wondering if its possible to run FreeBSD-4.0 on a 486 SLC2 66mhz. I'm sure it is possible, see attached. (win95 runs on this computer ok) I downloaded the floppies from Feb.14th, and disabled the hardware I don't

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Bryan Liesner wrote: The latest ata commits left my system completely unbootable. No disks were probed. He, you always seem to be lucky when I change something :) I always hold my breath when I cvsup and see changes to ata*:) Hmm,

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Bryan Liesner wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Bryan Liesner wrote: The latest ata commits left my system completely unbootable. No disks were probed. He, you always seem to be lucky when I change something :) I always hold my breath when I

openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Victor Salaman
This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Victor Salaman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be sure to reply to that address. I personally think that it's braindead to add openssl to the system and stripout parts of it (RSA IDEA). Don't get me wrong, I love to have openssl inside the system, it's just

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Jose Gabriel Marcelino
hi Soren, The latest ata commits left me unbootable too, the patch you provided below didn't help this too. I have a very different configuration from Bryan's (much simpler too): - DFI K6XV3+ mb with VIA MVP3 chipset ata-pci0: VIA 82C586 ATA-33 controller port 0xe000-0xe00f at device 7.1 on

Many PCI buses and probes on recent kernels

2000-02-19 Thread Jose Gabriel Marcelino
Hi, Apart from the more recently broken ATA stuff I started getting the following (cosmetic only really, but it leaves me wondering..) in kernels compiled around the 12th this month. This machine really just has one pci bus (this is a simple K6 VIA MVP3 motherboard). Also the unknow (to

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Jose Gabriel Marcelino wrote: Well, rebuild the loader, that helped Bryan, apparently it has nothing to do with the ata driver The latest ata commits left me unbootable too, the patch you provided below didn't help this too. I have a very different configuration from Bryan's

Re: Big ATA problems

2000-02-19 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jose Gabriel Marcelino wrote: hi Soren, The latest ata commits left me unbootable too, the patch you provided below didn't help this too. I have a very different configuration from Bryan's (much simpler too): Jose, the problem seems to be resolved by rebuilding the boot

CGA instead of VGA

2000-02-19 Thread Blaz Zupan
On -current my VGA card is being used as a CGA card. It is correctly recognized as a VGA: vga-pci0: S3 Trio graphics accelerator mem 0xf800-0xfbff irq 11 at device 15.0 on pci0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3d0-0x3db iomem 0xb8000-0xb on isa0 but then used as a CGA: sc0: CGA 16

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: At this stage, I'm ready to have two different CD products for international and domestic use. I can also ensure that the appropriate ISO images are made available from the US and internat.freebsd.org, along with the distribution bits. What we

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Kai Großjohann wrote: "Jordan K. Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really kinda wish you'd point them to Novice^H^H^H^H^HStandard instead since it does more than be a bit more verbose, it also makes sure that all the appropriate steps are covered and prevents even relatively

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Okay, so what do I need to do to make this happen? 1. Make openssl build as part of the standard "world" and depend on the setting of USA_RESIDENT, which will be initially set by sysinstall. It already does this if you get your crypto

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: It already does this if you get your crypto from internat. US mirror sites only carry the neutered (no-RSA) version, but internat carries RSA and builds it conditional on USA_RESIDENT. And why don't the USA sites have the RSAREF version?

Re: ATA errors

2000-02-19 Thread Bryan Liesner
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I cvsupped this morning and I just had a chance to build a new kernel, and now I get a "cannot mount root" and it drops into some kind of commandline where I can enter a root for it to mount. This is the error it gives me now: ata0-slave:

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Building with rsaref can't be the default case, because it's restrictively licensed and not legal for some people to use. It's trying to figure out who "some" people are and how to address the needs of people who don't fit that category that I'm still having a hard time with here. If I have

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-19 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote: At 10:36 AM 2/18/00 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I will also say here and now that even I use the Standard installation since I don't like having to remember all the canonical steps in setting up a "stock" system and if anybody should remember them, it should

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Building with rsaref can't be the default case, because it's restrictively licensed and not legal for some people to use. It's trying to figure out who "some" people are and how to address the needs of people who don't fit that category that

make world

2000-02-19 Thread Omachonu Ogali
Anyone else got this error? -- snip -- === lib/libcom_err/doc install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming development tools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err).A Common Error Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir install-info: unrecognized option

Fix for problems building openssl ports

2000-02-19 Thread Jim Bloom
I found the problem Jordan and Robert Watson were having building ports that require rsaref and openssl. The test for whether libcrypto was compiled with RSA was using shell syntax for executing the command and not make's syntax. The extra 'true' on the command is to silence make's warning about

Re: Fix for problems building openssl ports

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jim Bloom wrote: I found the problem Jordan and Robert Watson were having building ports that require rsaref and openssl. The test for whether libcrypto was compiled with RSA was using shell syntax for executing the command and not make's syntax. The extra 'true' on the

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Doug Barton
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Victor Salaman wrote: I personally think that it's braindead to add openssl to the system and stripout parts of it (RSA IDEA). Don't get me wrong, I love to have Pardon me for coming late to the party, but what was the rationale

Re: make world

2000-02-19 Thread Jim Bloom
See the file src/UPDATING. This is one of a couple problems that one sees when trying to install current on an older system. If this error isn't mentioned explicitly, check the sections relating to flags and xinstall (install). Jim Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Omachonu Ogali wrote: Anyone else

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Victor Salaman wrote: I personally think that it's braindead to add openssl to the system and stripout parts of it (RSA IDEA). Don't get me wrong, I love to have Pardon me for coming late to the party, but what was the rationale

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Having _a_ general-purpose cryptography toolkit in the base system allows us to add in all sorts of cool things to FreeBSD (https support for fetch, openssh, random cryptographic enhancements elsewhere). OpenSSL just happens to be the only decent freely-available (BSDL) toolkit. And I still

I'm baaaaack

2000-02-19 Thread Julian Elischer
I'm back and resubscribed to a subset of lists (hackers, announce and current) My connectivity is still shitty, but I'm working on it and have managed to Cvsup my cvs tree up-to-date. Julian -- ++ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | | / \ [EMAIL

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread William Woods
How does OpenBSD do it? Cant we do what they do? On 20-Feb-00 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Victor Salaman wrote: I personally think that it's braindead to add openssl to the system and stripout parts of it (RSA IDEA). Don't get me wrong, I

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, William Woods wrote: How does OpenBSD do it? Cant we do what they do? They do a worse job than us is the short answer. Kris "How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a man?" "Eight!" "That was a rhetorical question!" "Oh..then, seven!" -- Homer

Re: make world

2000-02-19 Thread kibbet
Hey all, I got this error, and the 2205 entry in UPDATING didn't seem to cover enough for me, I was comming from a clean bin install of 3.2. UPDATING - 2205 entry; make buildworld make installworld This will fail cd

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
How does OpenBSD do it? Cant we do what they do? 1. They're in Canada 2. What they do appears to be kind of icky, e.g. it requires more "hand work" than I think the average FreeBSD user would be willing to accept (or the average developer would be willing to see in the tree in such a

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Hmmm. I'm beginning to wonder if openssl shouldn't just be backed-out at this point. The situation with RSA makes this far more problematic than I think anyone first thought, and I've seen a lot of breakage so far for what appears to be

Re: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Doug Barton
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Doug Barton wrote: Pardon me for coming late to the party, but what was the rationale behind putting openssl into the source anyway? Given the rsa/no rsa problems, not to mention the US vs. the world problems, what were the benefits

RE: openssl in -current

2000-02-19 Thread Victor A. Salaman
I have a crazy idea, and don't flame me for it... Don't remove OpenSSL from the three... put the whole thing there, the whole openssl distro in the tree. The problem with the patent is not that you CAN'T get the software, the problem is that you can't build with it and use it. But nobody said