On 8/24/2012 3:57 AM, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 23 August 2012 18:19, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi,
It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap
would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is confusing that running the command gets
On 2012-08-24 05:55, Dima Panov wrote:
Does anybody get same error at buildworld with recent -current?
...
In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpc.h:76:
/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpcb_clnt.h:69:8: error: unknown
type name 'rpcblist'
extern rpcblist
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
Hi,
It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to
/usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is
confusing that running the command gets different results the second time it
is run vs.
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:00:25 -0400
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:
On 23 August 2012 22:55, Steve Wills swi...@freebsd.org wrote:
As far as I understand it, POLA is about changing existing things:
okay, so forget POLA. My point is that a user following a how to or
even *our*
On 08/24/2012 10:15, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 06:19:57PM -0400, Steve Wills wrote:
Hi,
It seems to me that renaming the pkg binary in /usr/sbin/pkg to
/usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap would make sense. From a user standpoint, it is
confusing that running the command gets
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Hmm, this is not true on i386 where the problem is not just the physical
RAM required, but also address space. (The swap zone is all mapped into KVA
even if it isn't used.) This is why Alan's e-mail specifically
mentioned amd64, ia64, etc. but not i386
A few more reasons (unless I have not seen some relevant documentation to the
contrary) to not mandate pkgng as the default...
Nowadays, one can save time by installing two ports which officially or
unofficially conflict, and have /var/db/pkg entries for both, and even
local workarounds (for
On 24 Aug 2012 11:08, Jeffrey Bouquet jeffreybouq...@yahoo.com wrote:
A few more reasons (unless I have not seen some relevant documentation to
the contrary) to not mandate pkgng as the default...
Why don't you phrase this as How can one ... so you sound less negative?
Nowadays, one can save
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in case
it
is going to bootstrap.
So, removing the prompt will make everybody happy? :-)
What about a prompt with timeout? This is the first time pkg is run,
I'll start bootstrapping in 10
On Friday, August 24, 2012 5:44:48 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Hmm, this is not true on i386 where the problem is not just the physical
RAM required, but also address space. (The swap zone is all mapped into
KVA
even if it isn't used.) This is
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
have any modern x86 box with 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
on it, not i386. I think i386 would be fine to just keep the limit it had.
The limit we had was
24.08.2012 19:12, Dimitry Andric пишет:
On 2012-08-24 05:55, Dima Panov wrote:
Does anybody get same error at buildworld with recent -current?
...
In file included from /usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpc.h:76:
/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include/rpc/rpcb_clnt.h:69:8: error: unknown
type name
On 2012-08-24 15:07, Dima Panov wrote:
24.08.2012 19:12, Dimitry Andric пишет:
...
You are most likely setting CPP as follows:
CPP=clang -E
Don't do that, use the following instead:
CPP=clang-cpp
If there is no clang-cpp symlink in /usr/bin yet, just make it manually
for now. It
On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:45:43 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
have any modern x86 box with 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
on it, not i386. I think i386
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
case it
is going to bootstrap.
So, removing the prompt will make everybody happy? :-)
What about a prompt with timeout?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
...
yes i do see that.
Maybe less aggressive with M_NOWAIT but still kills processes.
Are you compiling world with MALLOC_PRODUCTION?
On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
case it
is going to bootstrap.
So, removing the prompt will make everybody
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Ulrich Spörlein u...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 22:24:56 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
Hello,
If you are not using geli(4) on -CURRENT (AKA FreeBSD 10) you can safely
ignore this mail. If you are, please read on!
-CURRENT users of geli(4)
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50:30AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has added is a prompt for the user in
case it
is
On 8/24/2012 11:02 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:50:30AM -0500, Bryan Drewery wrote:
On 8/24/2012 9:31 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 02:23:47PM +0200, Alex Dupre wrote:
Baptiste Daroussin ha scritto:
On of the thing I forgot and kan@ has
On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
...
yes i do see that.
Maybe less aggressive with M_NOWAIT but still kills processes.
Are you
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
...
yes i do see that.
Maybe less
On 08/24/2012 11:54, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:12:51AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/24/2012 09:57, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:43:33AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
On 08/23/2012 12:45, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:08:40PM -0500, Alan Cox
On 8/23/2012 8:03 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:
On 23 August 2012 22:59, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
I tend to agree with Steve here ... we can't be responsible for other
people's poorly written docs.
This isn't about poorly written docs. This is the user expecting a
tool to exist, which
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On 8/24/2012 1:15 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
BTW for people who haven't tested and want to share their opinion,
here is how work /usr/sbin/pkg:
it first checks if ${LOCALBASE}/sbin/pkg is there - if yes it
directly execute
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 03:38:33PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
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On 8/24/2012 1:15 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
BTW for people who haven't tested and want to share their opinion,
here is how work /usr/sbin/pkg:
it first checks if
On 08/24/12 07:13, John Baldwin wrote:
On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:45:43 am Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes:
Note that on i386 you can't get more than 4GB of RAM without PAE, and if you
have any modern x86 box with 4GB of RAM, you are most likely running amd64
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
need the bootstrapping tool that will be in the base.
So, then they won't use it. I fail
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:47:26AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
On Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 01:33, Glen Barber wrote:
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org
(mailto:do...@freebsd.org) wrote:
Let
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
need the bootstrapping tool that will be in the base.
But surely the whole point of pkgng is that people *will* use pkg as the
default method of acquiring
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On 8/24/2012 5:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote:
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
need
On Saturday, 25 August 2012 at 01:33, Glen Barber wrote:
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 01:25:15AM +0100, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
On 24 Aug 2012, at 23:38, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org
(mailto:do...@freebsd.org) wrote:
Let me rephrase that more simply ... very few users are ever going to
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