Re: *** HEADS UP *** rc.conf changes (security)

2000-07-29 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard

 Hopefully sysinstall will be smarter about writing these overrides
 than it is about writing the "USA_RESIDENT=NO" override to /etc/make.conf.

It doesn't do that anymore.

- Jordan


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*** HEADS UP *** rc.conf changes (security)

2000-07-28 Thread Eivind Eklund

After discussion with obrien, jhb, and dwithe (and non-protests from
the other committers present), I'm changing the defaults for remote
services in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to the least dangerous
configuration, and making sysinstall write out overrides for the
variables to their former default values in /etc/rc.conf upon install.

This means that anybody upgrading /etc/defaults/rc.conf needs to add
the following lines to rc.conf if they want to have the same setup
afterwards (unless the variables already are set, of course):

# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
inetd_enable="YES"
portmap_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="YES"

(Heads up is over - more change detail below.)

This change might seem a little counterintuitive (given that
/etc/defaults/ are for defaults, after all) but seems to be the best
compromise for both getting the functionality jkh wants (freshly
installed boxes have active daemons, so users don't feel they have a
lot of extra hassle to get things up and working like they are used to
on other Unixen), and give FreeBSD a default secure config, meaning
the insecurities stand out.

I assume those of us that do new installs without using sysinstall
know FreeBSD well enough to be able to handle turning those daemons on
again if we want them ;)

BTW: Keep me in the Cc: list, please - I am not subscribed to -current
(or any other FreeBSD mailing list) at the moment.

Eivind.


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Re: *** HEADS UP *** rc.conf changes (security)

2000-07-28 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 12:41 AM +0200 7/29/00, Eivind Eklund wrote:
After discussion with obrien, jhb, and dwithe (and non-protests from
the other committers present), I'm changing the defaults for remote
services in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to the least dangerous
configuration, and making sysinstall write out overrides for the
variables to their former default values in /etc/rc.conf upon install.

Hopefully sysinstall will be smarter about writing these overrides
than it is about writing the "USA_RESIDENT=NO" override to /etc/make.conf.


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Re: *** HEADS UP *** rc.conf changes (security)

2000-07-28 Thread John Baldwin

Garance A Drosihn wrote:
 At 12:41 AM +0200 7/29/00, Eivind Eklund wrote:
 After discussion with obrien, jhb, and dwithe (and non-protests from
 the other committers present), I'm changing the defaults for remote
 services in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to the least dangerous
 configuration, and making sysinstall write out overrides for the
 variables to their former default values in /etc/rc.conf upon install.
 
 Hopefully sysinstall will be smarter about writing these overrides
 than it is about writing the "USA_RESIDENT=NO" override to /etc/make.conf.

It is.  It only writes these variables out when it creats an /etc/rc.conf
file from scratch because one doesn't exist.  Normally this only happens
during the install.

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Re: *** HEADS UP *** rc.conf changes (security)

2000-07-28 Thread Doug Barton

Eivind Eklund wrote:

 This change might seem a little counterintuitive (given that
 /etc/defaults/ are for defaults, after all) but seems to be the best
 compromise for both getting the functionality jkh wants (freshly
 installed boxes have active daemons, so users don't feel they have a
 lot of extra hassle to get things up and working like they are used to
 on other Unixen), and give FreeBSD a default secure config, meaning
 the insecurities stand out.

FWIW, I totally support this change. Personally, I think the default for
everything should be "off," and the admin should be required to enable the
services he needs. Eivind, it's good to see you, even semi-active. :)

Doug


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