Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > > You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? > > If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. > Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous > amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) And thank you again for that donation! We should have another conference at that place - I remember it was unusual to have a conference at a location that also supplied tools for hacking our Librettos. :) I believe those original funds purchased a Pentium Pro system of fairly reasonable configuration. As Julian says, however, the individual parts were replaced over the years, including the motherboard, and the freefall of today likely bore little resemblance to the one we purchased at the local PC shop in Walnut Creek, California! - Jordan ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On 29-7-2015 18:01, Jordan Hubbard wrote: On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) And thank you again for that donation! We should have another conference at that place - I remember it was unusual to have a conference at a location that also supplied tools for hacking our Librettos. :) It was a fun weekend. I think Robert demonstrated a heavy system @work, where he could compile the kernel (or was it world) within 20 minutes We were all amasted that the lines went by faster than we could read. I believe those original funds purchased a Pentium Pro system of fairly reasonable configuration. As Julian says, however, the individual parts were replaced over the years, including the motherboard, and the freefall of today likely bore little resemblance to the one we purchased at the local PC shop in Walnut Creek, California! If it went anything like here in the workshed, only the metal box is more or less still there. But all other parts have gone. Some 4U 19" frames have the fronts cut out, to make room for diskbays. :) Exactly like Julian suggests. I'd like his phrasing thou. --WjW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On 7/27/15 10:32 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to new, single-purpose service installations Hi, This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to find them. Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really impressed with the life time of that system... Does anybody know if this is actually the case? Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) I think it was a bit like my grandfather's axe.. A really great axe. we replaced the handle 3 times, the head four times and put in a couple of new wedges, but it's a great axe that one! --WjW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On 27/07/2015 16:42, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from > the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to > new, single-purpose service installations Hi, This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to find them. Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really impressed with the life time of that system... Does anybody know if this is actually the case? >>> >>> Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was >>> originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. >> >> You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? >> >> If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. >> Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous >> amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) >> > > The physical hardware did not last this long, and I do not recall the > physical specs of the recently deprecated hardware, but as far as > "handling this task for 18 years", that could have been clarified a bit > more (my fault). The system moved chassis several times, but was never > reinstalled (as far as we can tell) - it was originally a FreeBSD > 2-STABLE install, and was upgraded constantly throughout its lifetime, > and finally ran 11-CURRENT before being decommissioned. Right, that makes more sense. And I'm sort of more "relaxed" that there is not that much commodity hardware capable to survive that long running 24*7 ... The oldest servers here in the basement are like 10 years old, and on the brink of being thrashed... --WjW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > >> On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > >>> * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from > >>> the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to > >>> new, single-purpose service installations > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated > >> to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by > >> Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? > >> There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to > >> find them. > >> > >> Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really > >> impressed with the life time of that system... > >> Does anybody know if this is actually the case? > >> > > > > Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was > > originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. > > You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? > > If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. > Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous > amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) > The physical hardware did not last this long, and I do not recall the physical specs of the recently deprecated hardware, but as far as "handling this task for 18 years", that could have been clarified a bit more (my fault). The system moved chassis several times, but was never reinstalled (as far as we can tell) - it was originally a FreeBSD 2-STABLE install, and was upgraded constantly throughout its lifetime, and finally ran 11-CURRENT before being decommissioned. Glen pgpFpDzeggXeu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >> On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >>> * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from >>> the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to >>> new, single-purpose service installations >> >> Hi, >> >> This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated >> to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by >> Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? >> There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to >> find them. >> >> Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really >> impressed with the life time of that system... >> Does anybody know if this is actually the case? >> > > Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was > originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box? If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders. Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :) --WjW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from > > the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to > > new, single-purpose service installations > > Hi, > > This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated > to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by > Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? > There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to > find them. > > Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really > impressed with the life time of that system... > Does anybody know if this is actually the case? > Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'. Glen pgpogDHlOBRn6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015
On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from > the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to > new, single-purpose service installations Hi, This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall?? There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to find them. Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really impressed with the life time of that system... Does anybody know if this is actually the case? --WjW ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
