Not directed to Doug in particular, just selected the first message to
reply to, to keep the depth of the thread from exploding. :)
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected
On 12/29/11 14:04, John Baldwin wrote:
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:55:10 pm Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 12/29/11 10:52, Warren Block wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote:
A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS,
etc.)
rather than requiring the user
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote:
A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS, etc.)
rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx' string would be
one improvement.
There are PRs for that and several other common suggestions:
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:37:25 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote:
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual
On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote:
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in
resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Nathan Whitehorn
nwhiteh...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On 12/29/11 06:52, John Baldwin wrote:
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of
On Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:32:52 pm Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in
resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much
closer to
--- Gio 29/12/11, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org ha scritto:
...
I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and
especially
specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people
who are old
hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally
positive comments
On 12/29/11 10:52, Warren Block wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote:
A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS,
etc.)
rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx' string
would be
one improvement.
There are PRs for that and several other
On 29 December 2011 18:23, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote:
--- Gio 29/12/11, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org ha scritto:
I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and
especially
specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people
who are old
hands at
On Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:55:10 pm Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 12/29/11 10:52, Warren Block wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, John Baldwin wrote:
A way to select from available partition types (UFS, boot, swap, ZFS,
etc.)
rather than requiring the user to remember the 'freebsd-xxx'
On 29/12/2011 16:37, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially
specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old
hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally positive
comments on the user experience. Patches would
On 29 December 2011 21:25, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote:
--- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto:
FWIW;
I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD
lately
and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues:
-X.Org has become very difficult to
On 29/12/2011 21:30, Chris Rees wrote:
Nah, pkg_add -r works and grabs anything you need. Try it with
something monstrous (like gcc...)
But then you have to know the exact name of the package, which isn't
always obvious.
--
Bruce Cran
___
--- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto:
FWIW;
I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD
lately
and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues:
-X.Org has become very difficult to install. Setting
up
hald and friends, not to mention that you have
On 29 Dec 2011 21:36, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
On 29/12/2011 21:30, Chris Rees wrote:
Nah, pkg_add -r works and grabs anything you need. Try it with something
monstrous (like gcc...)
But then you have to know the exact name of the package, which isn't
always obvious.
If an
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:23:58AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
How am I supposed to install prebuilt packages (and the myriad of
dependencies) from now on?
I strongly recommend using portmaster. The manpage is very dense but
to start with, use something like the following (I'm just picking one
Hello;
--- Gio 29/12/11, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org ha scritto:
I use the nvidia driver, no idea what people with ATI
cards do.
I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with that, if you
ever want to try again and you can't work it out get me
off list ;)
Getting X11 to run on
On 12/29/11 12:51, Bruce Cran wrote:
On 29/12/2011 16:37, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and especially
specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people who are old
hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally positive
comments on
On 28/12/2011 06:30, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 22:08, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi,
Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and
extract out / reimplement those bits?
That's sounds great. As soon as that's done, we can remove sysinstall
from the base. Until those
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Vincent Hoffman vi...@unsane.co.uk wrote:
On 28/12/2011 06:30, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 22:08, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi,
Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and
extract out / reimplement those bits?
That's sounds
On 12/27/11 16:13, Ron McDowell wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install
configuration role that sysinstall played. More sysinstall components
I think such a tool should /not/ be a port, since I expect it would include a
package browser in it. I think it's something that could really help new users
get used to FreeBSD without having to trawl through man pages right at the
start.
--
Bruce Cran
Sent from my iPad
On 27 Dec 2011, at
Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/27/11 16:13, Ron McDowell wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the
post-install
configuration role that sysinstall played.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:50:54AM -0600, Ron McDowell wrote:
As a related question, is there a good primer somewhere about how to use
SVN? I'm using csup at present.
http://wiki.freebsd.org/SubversionPrimer
--
Steve
___
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in
resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much
closer to (say, 6 months before) the 10.0 release cycle, if no suitable
post-installation configuration tool has
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011, Ron McDowell wrote:
As a related question, is there a good primer somewhere about how to use SVN?
I'm using csup at present.
- Install the subversion port
- Downlaod the source. To get HEAD code:
svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/
or to get 9-stable code:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in
resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much
closer to (say, 6 months before) the 10.0 release cycle, if no suitable
On 12/27/2011 18:32, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On 12/28/11 06:29, Doug Barton wrote:
On 12/27/2011 03:48, Lawrence Stewart wrote:
On the topic of Doug's actual question, I see minimal sense in
resurrecting sysinstall in head now. I would suggest it be done much
closer to (say, 6 months before)
Hi,
Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and
extract out / reimplement those bits?
Noone's going to complain if you write say, a stand-alone package
browser, or a stand-alone gui upgrade tool, or stand-alone
configuration program, etc.
Adrian
On 12/27/2011 22:08, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Hi,
Why not just list the things that sysinstall did that people like, and
extract out / reimplement those bits?
That's sounds great. As soon as that's done, we can remove sysinstall
from the base. Until those things exist, removing it is premature.
On 12/26/2011 18:23, Justin Hibbits wrote:
Hi Doug,
I do agree that it would be nice to have a post-install configuration
utility. However, I think it might be better served with a separate
tool, rather than a swiss army knife that sysinstall was. If someone is
willing to do the work, I
On Dec 26, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected
on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-
install
configuration role that sysinstall played. More sysinstall components
were
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install
configuration role that sysinstall played. More
On 12/26/2011 20:29, Xin LI wrote:
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install
configuration role
Doug Barton wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install
configuration role that sysinstall played. More sysinstall components
were then removed. Then the old version
On Dec 26, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Ron McDowell wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
The story so far ...
sysinstall was removed from HEAD in October. I (and others) objected on
the basis that at this time there is no replacement for the post-install
configuration role that sysinstall played. More
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