Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-18 Thread Adam

I think the -a parameter to ping would be useful to you.  It makes the pc
speaker emit a beep for every reply.  If you have the speaker working and
are not hearing impaired, you will NOT forget! :)

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Leif Neland wrote:

 I've been hit by a "forgotten ping" again.
 
 I still do not see a reason for not having a default number of pings, instead of 
infinite.
 The only reason I've seen is "It's always been so".
 
 Even if a default of 4 pings is not acceptable, because windows does it that way, 
why not a large default then?
 
 If somebody _really_ want to ping forever, let them use -t0, and defend the rest of 
us from our blunders of forgetting a ping, keeping the line open infinitely.
 
 How about a MAX_PING=3600 in make.conf or so?
 
 I've supplied patches earlier, but they've been rejected.
 
 Leif
 
 
 
 
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Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-18 Thread sthaug

  If somebody _really_ want to ping forever, let them use -t0, and
  defend the rest of us from our blunders of forgetting a ping, keeping
  the line open infinitely.
 
 I use ping for precisely this purpose. Yes, I could change my setup,
 but so could you :-)

I used SunOS (and later Solaris) for many years - with ping having a
default count of 1. I hated it - I almost always used the -s option to
get *my* desired ping behavior (standard BSD). And it wasn't a case of
being used to something else - SunOS *was* my first contact with Unix.

So please don't change the default behavior of ping.

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Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Leif Neland wrote:

 If somebody _really_ want to ping forever, let them use -t0, and
 defend the rest of us from our blunders of forgetting a ping, keeping
 the line open infinitely.

I use ping for precisely this purpose. Yes, I could change my setup,
but so could you :-)

Kris


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Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Leif Neland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000117 16:16] wrote:
 I've been hit by a "forgotten ping" again.
 
 I still do not see a reason for not having a default number of pings, instead of 
infinite.
 The only reason I've seen is "It's always been so".
 
 Even if a default of 4 pings is not acceptable, because windows does it that way, 
why not a large default then?
 
 If somebody _really_ want to ping forever, let them use -t0, and defend the rest of 
us from our blunders of forgetting a ping, keeping the line open infinitely.
 
 How about a MAX_PING=3600 in make.conf or so?
 
 I've supplied patches earlier, but they've been rejected.

Please provide a reference to the PR you submitted and I'll have a look.

I don't think this modification will go in unless it's based on
the 'MAX_PING=3600' idea with a default for infinity.

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Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-17 Thread Wes Peters

Leif Neland wrote:
 
 I've been hit by a "forgotten ping" again.
 
 I still do not see a reason for not having a default number of pings, instead of 
infinite.
 The only reason I've seen is "It's always been so".
 
 Even if a default of 4 pings is not acceptable, because windows does it that way, 
why not a large default then?
 
 If somebody _really_ want to ping forever, let them use -t0, and defend the rest of 
us from our blunders of forgetting a ping, keeping the line open infinitely.
 
 How about a MAX_PING=3600 in make.conf or so?
 
 I've supplied patches earlier, but they've been rejected.

Maybe a PING_OPTS environment variable would be more acceptable.  You could
set yours to "-c 4" system wide, and this might be more palatable to 
FreeBSD in general.

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Re: Why not a default number of pings?

2000-01-17 Thread Matthew Dillon

: 
: How about a MAX_PING=3600 in make.conf or so?
: 
: I've supplied patches earlier, but they've been rejected.
:
:Maybe a PING_OPTS environment variable would be more acceptable.  You could
:set yours to "-c 4" system wide, and this might be more palatable to 
:FreeBSD in general.
:
:-- 
:"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
:
:Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://softweyr.com/

We've had the 'ping' argument before.  I personally don't think we should
touch it.  There are thousand ways one can hang oneself and adding 
environment variables or config options or default limitations for no
other reason then to avoid someone accidently leaving the program running
is a waste of time and an unnecessary pollution of the code.

Just create a global alias in /etc/csh.cshrc (etc) if you want to impose
a default pint count limit.
   
-Matt



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