Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On 12/23/18 1:27 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.12.18 um 02:39 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: >> On 12/21/18 10:03 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: The port Makefile that I have prepared is attached below for reference. Regards, STefan >>> >>> Thanks Stefan, >>> I took current

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On 12/24/18 3:32 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I see a discrepancy using ctm to extract, between ctm > built on 9.2-RELEASE & ctm built {from both src or ports} on current. > Just the 9.2-RELEASE ctm does not create 3 zero size files: > base/db/rep-cache.db-journal >

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

I wrote: > I took current /usr/ports/misc/ctm/ > & converted Stephen's & my diffs to be automatic ports patches: > http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/ports/gen/misc/ctm/files/ > http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/ports/gen/misc/ctm/README.JHS > I haven't checked all

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:27 AM Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.12.18 um 02:39 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > > On 12/21/18 10:03 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >>> The port Makefile that I have prepared is attached below for reference. > >>> Regards, STefan > >> > >> Thanks Stefan, > >> I

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On 12/21/18 10:03 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> The port Makefile that I have prepared is attached below for reference. >> Regards, STefan > > Thanks Stefan, > I took current /usr/ports/misc/ctm/ > & converted Stephen's & my diffs to be automatic ports patches: >

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Am 23.12.18 um 02:39 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > On 12/21/18 10:03 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>> The port Makefile that I have prepared is attached below for reference. >>> Regards, STefan >> >> Thanks Stefan, >> I took current /usr/ports/misc/ctm/ >> & converted Stephen's & my diffs to

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> The port Makefile that I have prepared is attached below for reference. > Regards, STefan Thanks Stefan, I took current /usr/ports/misc/ctm/ & converted Stephen's & my diffs to be automatic ports patches: http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/ports/gen/misc/ctm/files/

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Am 23.10.18 um 22:21 schrieb Warner Losh: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:13 PM Rodney W. Grimes> At the most/least we > should not go very far, > the only thing that needs done soon is a gonein(13) commited > to head and MFC'ed to stable/12 by thursday. > > All the other details

RE: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

. Grimes ; Ed Maste ; FreeBSD Current ; ctm-us...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? In message , Warner Losh writes: >> > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? >> >> Ah, yes, that brought back enough brain cells, confir

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:13 PM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > A cost(=time)/benefit look on moving ctm from src/ to ports/ : > > - No tangible architecture benefit (its not like purging an old driver > > to makes kernel support simpler, or avoiding clashing

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> A cost(=time)/benefit look on moving ctm from src/ to ports/ : > - No tangible architecture benefit (its not like purging an old driver > to makes kernel support simpler, or avoiding clashing libs etc) > - FreeBSD would shrink 0.028 % of the size of src/ > cd

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

A cost(=time)/benefit look on moving ctm from src/ to ports/ : - No tangible architecture benefit (its not like purging an old driver to makes kernel support simpler, or avoiding clashing libs etc) - FreeBSD would shrink 0.028 % of the size of src/ cd /pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/src

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 12:18 PM Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.10.18 um 19:06 schrieb Warner Losh: > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM Stefan Esser > > wrote: > > > > Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > > > I have no problem turning

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On 10/23/18 11:44 AM, Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: >> I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate >> advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting >> software from the FreeBSD base to a port. If not, I

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Am 23.10.18 um 19:06 schrieb Warner Losh: > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM Stefan Esser > wrote: > > Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > > I have no problem turning ctm into a port.  But I would appreciate > > advice on whether

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > > I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate > > advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting > > software from the FreeBSD base to a port. If not, I can muddle my way > > through it. But

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM Stefan Esser wrote: > Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > > I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate > > advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting > > software from the FreeBSD base to a

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Am 23.10.18 um 17:27 schrieb Montgomery-Smith, Stephen: > I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate > advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting > software from the FreeBSD base to a port. If not, I can muddle my way > through it. But give me

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

I have no problem turning ctm into a port. But I would appreciate advice on whether there is a standard or easy process for converting software from the FreeBSD base to a port. If not, I can muddle my way through it. But give me some time (a few months) to get it done, because the rest of my

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Hi, Reference: > From: "Rodney W. Grimes" > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:11:43 -0700 (PDT) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > In message > > > > , Warner Losh writes: > > > > >> > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? > > >> > > >> Ah, yes, that brought

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > The ctm(1) client remains in the FreeBSD base system, although > > > FreeBSD-hosted ctm infrastructure was shut down some time ago. I > > > suspect it is time to remove it from the base system (perhaps making a > > > port). > > > > > > How much use does ctm have

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > The ctm(1) client remains in the FreeBSD base system, although > > FreeBSD-hosted ctm infrastructure was shut down some time ago. I > > suspect it is time to remove it from the base system (perhaps making a > > port). > > > > How much use does ctm have these days? >

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> > In message > > , Warner Losh writes: > > >> > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? > >> > >> Ah, yes, that brought back enough brain cells, > >> confirmed that is who I saw with ctm usage. > > > >Do we need it in base? Or can we make it a port? > > Absolutely

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

In message , Warner Losh writes: >> > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? >> >> Ah, yes, that brought back enough brain cells, >> confirmed that is who I saw with ctm usage. > >Do we need it in base? Or can we make it a port? Absolutely make it a port! --

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

Hi, Reference: > From: "Rodney W. Grimes" > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:38:25 -0700 (PDT) "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > In message <201810221957.w9mjvdxx012...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. > > Gri > > mes" writes: > > > > >I do not know that other than I do

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > In message <201810221957.w9mjvdxx012...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, > "Rodney W. Gri > > mes" writes: > > > > >I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen > > >one data point

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> > In message <201810221957.w9mjvdxx012...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. > Gri > mes" writes: > > >I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen > >one data point in the last 14 days of a user who was infact > >using ctm though I can not associate a username/email

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

In message <201810221957.w9mjvdxx012...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. Gri mes" writes: >I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen >one data point in the last 14 days of a user who was infact >using ctm though I can not associate a username/email address >with that

Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system?

> The ctm(1) client remains in the FreeBSD base system, although > FreeBSD-hosted ctm infrastructure was shut down some time ago. I > suspect it is time to remove it from the base system (perhaps making a > port). > > How much use does ctm have these days? I do not know that other than I do know