Re: newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-26 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis

>From the keyboard of Mike Smith:

> It is a space problem.  You can trivially put modules on a third floppy, 
> but you would first need to turn the matcd driver into a module, which 
> you are encouraged to do as you appear to be one of the three people left 
> in the world with a functioning Matsushita drive - a necessary 
> prerequisite for this activity.  8)

At least four people. I have two Mitsumi drives/controllers supported by
the mcd driver and i offer shipping them to anyone who want to take over 
maintaining and enhancing the driver :-)

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Re: newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-26 Thread Kelvin Farmer

Mike Smith wrote:
> 
> > > > Please add that back again.
> > >
> > > No.  The Matsushita/Mitsumi/Sony CDROM interfaces have gone the way of
> > > the 3c501.  The drivers are there, and if you're really desperate, you're
> > > welcome to try them, but they're not supported install devices anymore.
eed to turn the matcd driver into a module, which
> you are encouraged to do as you appear to be one of the three people left
> in the world with a functioning Matsushita drive - a necessary
> prerequisite for this activity.  8)

Just a note, the mcd driver still works fine in current, but needs the
options COMPAT_OLDISA.
I ended up using an old Mitsumi 2x for awhile when a faster cdrom drive
bit the dust.

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Re: newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-26 Thread Mike Smith

> > > Please add that back again.
> > 
> > No.  The Matsushita/Mitsumi/Sony CDROM interfaces have gone the way of 
> > the 3c501.  The drivers are there, and if you're really desperate, you're 
> > welcome to try them, but they're not supported install devices anymore.
> > 
> > Note that it's trivial to build a custom installation kernel these days,
> > and in your case, it would be the simplest answer.
> 
> Well, although I may have the tools and host machines around normally,
> in this particular case, where I'm upgrading an ISDN gateway machine
> I'm really on my own and have no 4.2 kernel build environment at hand.

Then you are in an unfortunate situation, and we're terribly sorry, but 
your hardware simply isn't supported by the installation environment.

> When the drivers are there, what would be the price for adding them into
> the GENERIC installation kernel?

Space.

> Couldn't the drivers be loaded 
> as modules and test against presence of the hardware similar like Linux or NT
> do it?  We have a two floppy installation kit anyway, so it should not
> be a disk space problem only.

It is a space problem.  You can trivially put modules on a third floppy, 
but you would first need to turn the matcd driver into a module, which 
you are encouraged to do as you appear to be one of the three people left 
in the world with a functioning Matsushita drive - a necessary 
prerequisite for this activity.  8)

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Re: newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-26 Thread Christoph Kukulies

On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 04:55:08PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > Trying to upgrade an existing 3.4 system to 4.2 
> > failed due to kernel.GENERIC not having mcd0 built in
> > anymore (MITSUMI CDROM) :-(
> > 
> > Please add that back again.
> 
> No.  The Matsushita/Mitsumi/Sony CDROM interfaces have gone the way of 
> the 3c501.  The drivers are there, and if you're really desperate, you're 
> welcome to try them, but they're not supported install devices anymore.
> 
> Note that it's trivial to build a custom installation kernel these days,
> and in your case, it would be the simplest answer.

Well, although I may have the tools and host machines around normally,
in this particular case, where I'm upgrading an ISDN gateway machine
I'm really on my own and have no 4.2 kernel build environment at hand.

When the drivers are there, what would be the price for adding them into
the GENERIC installation kernel? Couldn't the drivers be loaded 
as modules and test against presence of the hardware similar like Linux or NT
do it?  We have a two floppy installation kit anyway, so it should not
be a disk space problem only.

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Re: newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-25 Thread Mike Smith

> Trying to upgrade an existing 3.4 system to 4.2 
> failed due to kernel.GENERIC not having mcd0 built in
> anymore (MITSUMI CDROM) :-(
> 
> Please add that back again.

No.  The Matsushita/Mitsumi/Sony CDROM interfaces have gone the way of 
the 3c501.  The drivers are there, and if you're really desperate, you're 
welcome to try them, but they're not supported install devices anymore.

Note that it's trivial to build a custom installation kernel these days,
and in your case, it would be the simplest answer.

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rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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newer GENERIC (4.2) don't support mcd0

2000-12-25 Thread Christoph Kukulies

Trying to upgrade an existing 3.4 system to 4.2 
failed due to kernel.GENERIC not having mcd0 built in
anymore (MITSUMI CDROM) :-(

Please add that back again.

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